Some people say there are weapons that can not be recognized by a ballistic tests. For example, the shotguns used to hunt dear, but if that is the case, then why the government expects us to register or make a ballistic tests of our shotguns anyways???
Does it make sense? or just money--sense???
2007-11-06 15:19:52 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
NO ..It is NOT possible. Shotguns are the exception. There is absolutely NO WAY that a Shotgun can be traced or identified thru Ballistic's firing tests. The most that Forensic Scientists can determine is if a particulur empty shell casing was fired from a particular shotgun by the extractor marks on the brass base of the empty shell. There is no way that the projectiles can be traced however, because a shotgun leaves no barrel markings left or visable on the lead PROJECTILES in a shotgun shell as it is fired....
NOTE* There are no existing and/or pending laws or government plans that are currently being considered for the Ballistic Fingerprinting of any SHOTGUNS.....Handguns are another story...
2007-11-06 16:05:14 · answer #1 · answered by JD 7 · 10⤊ 1⤋
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2016-12-24 00:53:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Shotgun Ballistics
2016-10-30 23:20:01 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There are more ways than the markings left on the bullet. They can trace lead from the pellets to lead rubbed off on the barrel. They can even test the lead shot and determine which batch the shells came from, same with gun powder.
Also, the sabot is left. This gives make and model of ammo.
If you eject the shell then the firing pin mark can be matched as well as markings left on the bottom of the brass and plastic shell.
All things said, you'd have to do something really bad in order for these tests to be carried out.
2007-11-08 00:43:11 · answer #4 · answered by evo741hpr3 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
There is no good science behind ballistic fingerprinting. Please understand that it's just a way to get guns registered and just a few more steps untill they take away all civilian guns. When the government has guns and the people don't, it's called a Police State.
2007-11-06 16:06:02 · answer #5 · answered by DJ 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Ballistic testing? No, but an ejected shell will show characteristics of the firearm on the headstamp. the mark left by the firing pin on the primer and the mark left by the ejector on the shell's rim are two areas that are looked at.
2007-11-12 15:13:32 · answer #6 · answered by Casey M 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It all depends. If you are shooting a smooth bore barrel, then the answer is no. But if you are shooting a shotgun with a slug barrel, which usually has riflings, then the answer is yes.
like all rifled barrels when the projectile leaves the barrle it leaves the groove marks on the bullet.
2007-11-07 13:54:39 · answer #7 · answered by sommhog 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You can't put government, guns and (common) sense in the same idea. It is just not going to work.
2007-11-06 17:34:24 · answer #8 · answered by repentant sinner 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No it's not possible, if anything the primer may may tell, but that's it.
Randkl, please provide some links for your "facts", I'd very much like to read some more about what you wrote.My google searches have shown no valid results.
2007-11-07 02:02:21 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The "gunsmith" declares: "There is absolutely NO WAY that a Shotgun can be traced or identified thru Ballistic's firing tests."
Again, he has given a wrong answer. If you rely on his answers, be careful. Wrong info can be dangerous.
One case in the nineties tied a shotgun to a murder via a burr left on the muzzle of a sawn off shotgun. Another tied a slug to a poorly installed front bead. Still another one tied pellets recovered from a victim to lead particles left in rust pits in a shotgun barrel. Still another tied gunpowder tags (reloaders know what I mean) to tags left in a shotgun barrel.
In all cases, as is true for ALL weapons, it takes comparing the actual weapon to the evidence. You can't say "this pistol shot him" without comparing that actual pistol to the bullet in question.
Zastava: ask the gunsmith you wrote the email to me about. He's the expert. Then again, you're looking an awful lot like one of his aliases.
For those of us that aren't experts, simply search on "firearms forensics shotgun" and do that thing called "reading".
*ANY* flaw or individual characteristic in a shotgun barrel acts exactly like rifling on a bullet....and if the projectile is recoverable in it's original form, those barrel defects can be matched. The burr on the sawn off barrel gouged the shot cup....the slug in question had a nice, clean groove down one side that matched the front bead that stuck too far into the barrel. Powder tags are one of the most common methods of matching shotguns/ammo to crimes.
All you have to do is read, bud.
2007-11-06 18:41:28 · answer #10 · answered by randkl 6 · 0⤊ 9⤋