Historically speaking:- Jesus ( Aramaic Issa) did actually live.
Western historians do mention him. Josephus, the greatest historian of the first century, gave two lines to jesus. He said a man named Jesus had been cruxified in Jeruselem, but had been seen by some of his friends some three days later. He does not say Jesus died. The muslim Q-uran also says that Jesus did not die on the cross. It doesn`t say he wasn`t cruxified.
This fits perfectly as the bible tells us that 100lbs of aloe was taken into the tomb. Aloe is not used on dead people . It is a healing and soothing herd.
In the Kashmir chronicals of the kings is a story of a boy of 14 years of age who arrived with a caravan fron the middle east. This boy, a friend to the prince, and very clever, returned to his homeland at the are of 29.
He reapears at the age of 34, and takes up the position of advicer to the king.
He was a man of emence knowledge and understanding and a great and wonderous healer.
He is buried in the tomb of kings in Kashmir and is the only one buried East West (jewish custom) The inprint of the hands and feet (proof of burial) shows a person who had had their feet nailed at an earlier age. Left foot over right.
The name on this grave is ISSA aged 84
For all the christians that wont to disbelieve this I say get a plane to Kashmir and look for yourselves before you condemn out of hand...!!!!!
2007-11-06 07:23:03
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answered by Terry M 5
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Respondents have suggested that most Christians take it for granted that Jesus died by crucifixion because the Bible says so. Others also point out that there are some doubts as to the historicity of Jesus.
Both of those points have merit. If the gospels check out historically (and are corroborated by other historical information), then the gospels would provide a valid account of what went on during Jesus' life and after it.
Many scholars today (Christians and otherwise) question the historicity of the Scriptures. It is important to note that these are honest, professional scholars who do not have an agenda to put Christianity into disrepute, but rather work to determine what can be historically verified. Without positive archaeological proof on Jesus' existence, it becomes very difficult to make absolute assertions about whether he lived or died.
Most scholars agree that Jesus was a true historical figure that lived some time between 5 B.C.E and 27 C.E. After that, the consensus breaks down.
2007-11-06 06:53:38
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answered by JWrightus 2
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There is doubt over how he died, amoung those who question him as to take away from his and the Bibles credibility. I do not think anyone would disagree with me there. Those who are not out to discredit Christianity, often find that there is no doubt he was crucified, or better yet, that IF he was crucified, there was NO WAY HE LIVED and that he really did die. There is a theory that says he fainted on the cross and then was nursed back to health in 2 1/2 days in the tomb, obviously this theory makes no sense but still, I thought I would mention it. There was a study a doctor did (probably has been more than one) that was featured on the History channel, and it said that ANYONE who was crucified, would have died, ESPECIALLY the way they say JESUS was crucified. Most Historians and scholors who has looked into it without the specific desire of discrediting the Bible, but without the desire to credit the Bible (objective researchers - there are some on this topic but it's only very few) most of the scholors and historians say there is no chance that he wasn't.
So those who aren't out to sway religion one way or another tend to agree that Jesus lived, he preached, he had followers, his followers claimed he did miricles, he was crucified because of political problems (someone didn't like what he was preaching) and all his followers claim he rose again, NOTE: they could not have been crazy or dreaming, these theories were looked into long ago.
I hope that answers your question, feel free to email me,
Jessica
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I forgot to mention this - the scholors do not begin to debate whether he was God or the son of God, only that he existed.
2007-11-06 06:49:32
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answered by Anonymous
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It os a certainty. No tonly because of the gospels and books of the NT written by etye witnesses. But also because crucifiction was prophesized as the way our savior was going to die years before crucifiction was ever an option for someone sentenced to death.
And since Jesus fulfilled every prophecy about the savior. And the odds of one person meeting every prophecy would be a number like a 1 with enough zeros after it to circumnavigate earth about 500 times to 1
2007-11-06 06:46:52
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answered by Gregg K 1
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Roman soldiers were good at the cruxifiction business. They knew how to do it right and how to verify if a man is dead or not.
If after a cruxifiction process, you see the body of a man not breathing; but you are ordered to make sure so you took an iron spike and pass it through the man's chest, cut his heart apart causing it to burst blood and other fluids accumulated on the tissues surrounding the heart due to the violent force applied to the spike, do you need to call a doctor to verify if the man is dead?
2007-11-06 08:51:37
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answered by Darth Eugene Vader 7
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You know' all these experts give their well meaning well versed' and good grammar theory's
but they are only presuming and guessing
They were not there?
There are so many theory's from different' so called intellectuals, it becomes an Agatha Christie who dun-nit.,
I am a Catholic, and I except the New Testament,
not because I am brainwashed, but of personal experience??
2007-11-06 07:25:51
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answered by denis9705 5
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The only ones who doubt He was crucified on a cross are the JW's. For some reason the insist on a torture stake.
2007-11-06 06:43:28
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answered by Bible warrior 5
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I asked this yesterday and other than the people who were backing up that he was crucified with the Bible the general consensus was yes there is no historical proof of it happening.
2007-11-06 09:53:09
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answered by Anonymous
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he absolutely never died on the cross, he is buried in Kashmir, he was seen in the flesh by the deciples after the "crucifiction" crucifixion he even showed his wounds to thomas and he placed his fingers into the wounds, even pontius pilate questioned if jesus was dead, he was rescued by the man who paid for the tomb he also met mary in the garden of gethsemane.
2007-11-06 09:16:43
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answered by Anonymous
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One need only go to the end of the gospels and see that Thomas stuck his fingers in the "nail" holes in Jesus' hand.
There is also archaeological evidence from that time that shows nails going through the bones of victims.
http://www.prophecystudy.com/biblical_archaeology/images/crucified_man.gif
John 20:25
“Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
Colossians 2:14
...having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
2007-11-06 06:43:38
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answered by Anonymous
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