If JESUS wasn't CRUCIFIED WHERE WOULD HE BE IN HISTORY?

Question

2nd QUESTION: Did JUSUS get permission from the Jews to teach or train GENTILES in there knowledge?

3rd Question: How did he die for your sins?

Answer 1

He would just be "Joe and Mary's kid"

Answer 2

1st question: The fact is that he wouldn't. There is nothing in the way of immediate contemporary mention of Jesus anywhere. Couple this with the fact that Israel was a hotbed of religious zealotry, with very many religious sects and preachers. You must also remember that Jesus was not unique in his message, he was merely expressing current Judaic thought, although in an easy to understand parable style. Crucifiction was also a very common source of punishment by the Romans. There are reports of one suzerain (can't remember which) crucifying a thousand people over the course of a couple of days. So I think the question is more, 'what if Jesus had not risen from the dead?' The church itself lays the more importance on this part of Jesus's life (or death) than all his preaching and miracles. So, fact is, if Jesus had not risen from the dead he would have certainly joined the ranks of his very many unknown, unnamed dead preaching brethren.

2nd question: Jesus never received permission to teach his religion to the gentiles. There is strong evidence to suggest that Paul, who was a gentile and had never met Jesus strongly advicated the inclusion of Gentiles into the fledgling religion, saying that Jesus had given a new set of commandements and covenant, while the more traditional Judaic original followers of Jesus developed along new but a still stringently Judaic form of the religion. As time progressed, Paulian thought won the day, for better or worse...

3rd question: No idea, it's somehow linked to Jesus's proclamation that he was the way to heaven I guess...

Answer 3

Jesus suffered from delusions and mistakenly thought he was the son of a god, and that was his downfall. Some people believed him because he was a good illusionist and could mislead people into thinking he could perform miracles; today he would have been a 1st class television entertainer. However, some people put him to the test, like when the supposed satan asked him to throw himself from the mountain to see if he would survive. He refused of course and gave a good reason why.
Eventually his reputation caught up with him and the Romans decided to put him to the ultimate test - and crucified him, saying: "Now get out of that one or get your father to help you." But Jesus` `god` suddenly turned deaf and, later, when explanations were needed, someone came up with the fact that `god` had sacrificed his only son to clean and atone for the sins of the world that others had committed.
Now if you believe that, you`ll believe anything, which you do, of course, what `god` or man or any other creature would make his own son suffer just because all the faceless and unknown crooks and thieves and vagabonds of this world had been very sinful. And how did the death of Jesus atone for all those?
When on the cross Jesus was heard to say: "Father, why has thou forsaken me?" He had realised at that fateful but late moment that he was not the son of a god, but just a normal human being. His body was taken down and placed in a cave with a huge boulder at the entrance to stop people stealing it. Then, when they found the cave empty, they said it must have been moved by `god` because no human was strong enough to move it.
They had forgotten that someone, a human or humans, had to put the stone there in the first place, therefore it only adds to the mystery of the disappearance of the body which was never found.
If you cannot see the sense in the above, then you must be lacking in an enormous amount of intelligence but, no doubt, someone will come up with a reasonable feasible answer, but no miracles, please, they do not exist. Or bible quotes. Thank you.
As for the other questions, those have been answered but, I forgot the story of Jesus raising someone from the dead. In those far-off days a body could look lifeless, dead, then suddenly come back to conciousness, it`s happened several times, many times, not just that once, but for Christians it was and still is the only time a lifeless body has been brought back to life. Ever heard of resuscitation?
And if he wasn`t crucified he would have lived to about 40 or 50 then died and nothing more would have been heard of him. But we cannot have that, can we? Too simple and not dramatic enough to suit the Christians.

Answer 4

If Jesus wasnt Crucified then he would still be living on earth instead of taken to heaven after his crucifixion. He is sinless and since sin causes death = Jesus will never Die a death caused by sin. But sin was placed apon him so that he could be a Sin offering.


2nd Answer. Jesus was his own rabbi and all his authority came from God. Jesus taught mostly Hebrews/Jews and rarely spent time with Gentiles to prove that he was First to the Jews then to the Gentiles.

Answer 5

I don't think we would have to worry. We would have all soon went to H&ll in a hand basket. He would be in Heaven with God, and the Holy Spirit. The path humanity was on and no removal from sin...we would be gone.

Answer 6

Muslims believe that Jesus was not cricufied, but it just "appeared" to people that he was.

Also we believe that his message was exclusively to Jews. In his words in the Gospels, he explains that he never came to abandon or cancel the Jewish Law. He preached to Jews. It was Paul that started preaching to non-Jews, and also it was him who abandoned the Law.

Salaam.

Answer 7

Jesus could have skipped the crucifixion and opened a donkey wash in Caanan and he'd still have the same place in history that he does today, that being the "mythology" section.

Answer 8

He'd be accounted a great prophet, and there would be more Jews in the world today.

Answer 9

Well there's a lot of conspiracy going on that "Josephus" was lying and was paid by the Church to speak of him. I found this plausible due to the fact that not one Contemporaneous Historian documented his happenings...this leads me to be quite a skeptic about his "history".

Answer 10

He was crucified and has a place in history, so what is the point of this qiestion?

Answer 11

Since His crucifixion and resurrection are His claim to fame probably pretty much an unknown.