If something cannot be created out of nothing, then how did God come into being?
The logical answer is that something must have created God.
So the same problem that Christians have with the BBT also applies to their God.
And yet they see no logical inconsistency to their belief that God always was.
2007-11-06
00:02:37
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Generally most Christians take issue with the BBT.
As much as you'd like it not to be so, they do.
There is often a grain of truth in some, but not all, generalizations.
2007-11-06
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Ah I see, because I question the logical consistency of many Christians' beliefs I am "ilk".
Wonderful tolerance, thank you for illuminating Christian intolerance.
2007-11-06
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I try to see it from their point of view. It's incredibly silly, but this seems to be the way they think:
o Everything that happens, according to them, must have a divine agent to cause it. They're hooked on 'causes' - especially their beloved 'first cause' - even though Quantum Mechanics shows that uncaused causes are commonplace in the universe.
o The universe happened. Therefore they conclude that someONE made it happen. Natural physical explanations don't cut it with them.
o God Dit It. Far easier than learning - of trusting - the complex mathematical hypotheses which are the best science can muster at the moment - simply because there's no known way to test such hypotheses right now.
o And since the object of their game is to find reasons to believe in God in the first place: QED.
o It's easy for them - who consider God a fait accompli anyway - to ignore the fact that bringing a super-intelligent, supernatural universe-creating deity into the picture just pushes the question back, without really answering anything.
And so large chunks of the population stew happily in ignorance, paying no attention to the work going on that has so far failed to find the merest hint of a deity anywhere.
CD
2007-11-06 00:12:57
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answered by Super Atheist 7
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Find out what the word "God" means sometime. By definition, God has to be the "first cause" of everything. That is he is the "whatever" that started everything else. If something made "god", then that something would be "god".
Science teaches that everything PHYSICAL has to have an origin. But it agrees with religion that there are non-physical things - such as energy - what do not have a beginning. As a non-phsical Being, God is exempt from having to have an origin. He stands outside the laws of time and space.
You are probably familiar with several non-physical things that defy the laws of physics. An "idea" is a good example. It is not bound by gravity, nor can it be "tested" or "measured" in a lab. How much does an opinion way? What is the length of a thought? But they still exist and have great influence in the world.
I am not aware of many Christian who have problems with the BBT - if you mean that there was one moment when there was nothing, and then by an outside force everything "exploded" into existence. That is exactly what the Bible teaches. (Read Genesis 1:1-2 some time).
Where they have an issue is when the BBT is interpreted to say that no God was needed (an idea rejected by both Einstien and Hawkings). That the force behind it was only "physical" in nature and purely chance.
Christianity teaches that the force which caused the formation of the universe was God. That is a truth.
The BBT timeline of how everything then formed, moved, consolidated, evolved, or whatever are merely the mechanics that God used. Nothing in them deny his existence. The best they can present are facts.
To completely understand the creation, you need both the truth and the facts about it.
2007-11-06 00:22:44
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answered by dewcoons 7
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I am a Christian who does not believe in the Big Bang Theory for many reasons (scientific as well as faith).
I also have no problem with God just existing; here's why...
The BBT requires naturalistic reasoning to support it i.e. there must be a reason within nature for this to have happened. Therefore it requires that the original singularity be formed from something hence created in some way.
On the other hand God is a supernatural being and does not conform to the laws of nature and requires no naturalistic reason for being. So I do not have the same problem with the BBT as I do with a supernatural God.
It is the naturalists who insist on a natural reason for all things that create this problem; if you believe in the supernatural then there is no dichotomy.
2007-11-06 00:22:04
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answered by Don 5
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I am a Christian and do Not believe in the BBT. I believe God has always been and always will be. God wasn't created. God is a Spirit and as a Christian, God dwells within those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior through His Holy Spirit Who was given to all when Jesus Christ died on the Cross for our sins, was raised from the dead and ascended into Heaven. God sent His Holy Spirit to dwell with us, guide us and comfort us until the return of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. At that time every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
You are seeking God through physical things, but you are looking with blind eyes. I believe in Creation as Truth, not a theory.
Darwin gave you a storybook and you keep trying to make your fairytale come true. If you seek God through Jesus Christ, our only Mediator, the Truth will be revealed to you through His Holy Spirit.
Hebrews 9:15
And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
2007-11-06 00:41:11
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answered by Naturescent 4
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I have no problem with the Big Bang Theory. In fact, I believe it. I'm a Christian, but I'm also a believer in evolution. I mean ya, the bible says otherwise, but still. Wouldn't a god be more sensible to let everything go its own way? To just lay down stepping stones then sit back and watch the show. I mean, if he didn't do that, then why do we have war?
Alot of Christians believe god was always there. And will always be there. The beginning and end. Being a Christian I accept that being as it must be true. But still.
2007-11-06 00:15:14
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answered by Richard S 2
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I think most just misunderstand the idea of "nothing"
The BBT doesn't say there was a massive void but that everything was a large chaotic energy storm..or possibly something like that.
So that could have been God, or just an uber-singularity...either way would have been cool to see
2007-11-06 00:11:51
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't have a problem with the BBT or evolution, in fact I believe that GOD started all of it.
What I have a problem with is that why do Atheists say that everything started from nothing, but God could not have started from nothing.
Now to me, that does not make sense.
Blessings!!!
2007-11-06 00:15:37
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answered by Jaye16 5
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Hi,
I don't understand where you see intolerance. We believe that God created the heaven and the earth. and everything on or in both. Simple. Was there a "bang" when it happened? I don't know, you'll have to wait and ask Him when either He returns or when you die and you stand before Him. I don't mind waiting.
I don't know how God formed the beings on Earth. I just know he did. I don't believe in evaluation simply because if it were true then why don't we see it in process?
Just because we disagree with something you believe in doesn't make us intolerant.
You don't want to see our views so that makes you intolerant.
God Bless!
2007-11-06 01:56:47
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answered by knight_janette 3
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God always existed. The big bang, if it happened, was done by God. Explain to me where the material for the big bang came from in the first place.
You have a problem believing in God. But, accept that the universe was caused with a bang and started from nothing. Where did it all come from?
2007-11-06 00:11:53
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answered by Cal 5
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I don't know, but to me, if God exists, the only logical conclusion is that He must have evolved. That idea is anathema to many, but it seems so very logical to me.
And BBT? No matter is created, as someone said above. Religion is religion and physics are physics. It's best not to confuse the two without supporting evidence.
2007-11-06 01:18:55
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answered by ZombieTrix 2012 6
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