Simple test to see who is really "Caring for the Animals' or just plain caring for themselves.
Hunters, fishermen and 'sportsman' buy the equipment they use for their 'sport' and pay a special tax on them. They also pay for permits and licenses to hunt and fish. The special tax that sportsmen pay goes straight to the Govt. for use in wildlife conservation is 17%, the percentage of the license and permit fees I am not sure about, but thinking the majority goes to conservation.
On the opposite side, the fine folks claiming to 'care' about the animals and their 'rights' use about 99% of all the money they collect to pay their board of directors, which I am pretty sure have no animals on it, and for lawyers to plug up the court systems with frivoliuos lawsuits and other legal steps used to keep otherwise unemployed lawyer on the payroll.
So, would you rather support sportsman who finacially support wildlife and their habitate, or groups of people who support lawyers and otherwise unemployed 'celebrities'?
2007-11-06 00:57:41
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answered by NAnZI pELOZI's Forced Social 7
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Some very interesting arguments here. Things I had never considered.
I am basically against hunting because I am totally against guns. However, I do have a friend that hunts with a bow and arrow, which requires a good deal of skill. I don't really like that he hunts but I admire him much more than a hunter that uses a high powered rifle with a scope.
But I am also a hypocrite because I eat meat and use products made from animals. I think I could very easily be a vegetarian because I have a very difficult time preparing meat to cook. I hate cutting raw meat and I really have to not think about what the meat really is (or WAS).
When I was a little girl, about 8 or 9, I was walking down an alley towards my house. There was a shop door open and several men were standing around a deer that they had hanging by it's feet bleeding out. I was horrified by the sight.
Anyway., I would rather people didn't hunt, there is plenty of meat for sale at Jewell but again, I have no room for argument as I eat meat and wear leather.
Peace
2007-11-06 10:59:48
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answered by -Tequila17 6
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Let the education process begin:
From an evolutionary point of view,the hunter's often heard " for the health of the species " argument is bass ackwards. If they were genuinely interested in the overall health of the species they would kill the sick and the scrawny not the best and the brightest. Killing a 12 point buck goes against all the rules of natural evolution.
The reason that there was so much outrage about Michael Vick's killing of dogs has little to do with the actual killing of the dogs and much to do with the killing of people.
The fact of the matter is that 100% of all serial killers started their careers by killing and/or torturing small animals first as did a high percentage of those felons convicted of commiting violent crimes.
Society of course knows this and when it sees a human being abusing an animal warning bells go off and that person is dealt with harshly.
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I have literally been within 10 yards of a 12 point mule deer buck while backpacking in Grand Canyon National Park.I was hiking around a bend in the trail and he was right there. Since I know better than to mess with an animal that big in a wilderness situation , I backed up and let him be .In due time he got bored with me and ambled off.
2007-11-06 02:50:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Mr Danger. You show me a 12 point buck!! If you don't know what you're talking about, why bother? It's a proven fact that a cull is necessary in many area, due to weather, feed, and predators. The deer population will go through cycles. By limiting the number and type of animals taken in a season, the species as a whole stays healthy and multiplies. I am in total agreement that sport hunting is wrong, but for those of us living in rural areas, taking a moose or deer for our freezer is no different than urbanites eating pork or beef. The only difference is we worked for our meat rather than letting someone else kill it for us.
Mr Danger, so your telling me it had 24 points, 12 per side or it was a 6 point buck.
2007-11-06 10:41:47
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answered by kelowna42 3
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From the point Adam and Eve sinned animals have been slaughtered for man-kind. When the Israelites were "roaming" the wilderness they complained about the nutritious mana until bird was provided. Most shoes are made of animal hides. Most products we use have been animal tested. Just like the bird on Finding Nemo said to Merlin, "Fish gotta swim, birds gotta eat." Animals are here for us. The American indians never waste there kill. Just as others should not. Fact is way too many animals are processed and their carcasses wasted. Hunting, for the most part, is a quick kill and slaughter. Then the meat is usually used for consumption-still alot is wasted,but forcing animals to fight is more barbaric. The dogs are usually tampered into being mean by humans placing some sort of uncomfortable objects in the dogs ears. This allows anger from the dog when another being touches it. Thus it forces the animal to fight. Dogs are also hit in the genitalia area to encourage anger. We should not be encouraging any sort of anger. To me that is barbaric. After the animal fights, it is then left to suffer the pain rather the champ or the looser. Man-kind is sick to enact the roles upon helpless animals. I was always taught, "You kill it, you eat it." Those animals should not die in vain. They should not die these brutal deaths.
2007-11-05 23:58:34
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answered by loquaciousparaiyan 3
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Alot has changed over time, we don't have trains for the buffalo shooters to ride on and shoot from, and they don't have punt guns to shoot ducks from these days......
reintroducing predators has started, but you can't place wolves in the suburbs of New Jersey today, not without little children being hurt......
If hunting is outlawed, the population control will take place by starvation or on the highway.....not very humane... the population of the US will continue to rise/with less habitat for wildlife......
dog fighting is glorification of violence with dogs being killed for peoples entertainment......
I not sure about this blah, blah, blah business
2007-11-06 02:34:06
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answered by lymanspond 5
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Pros: It is necessary for population control but also for natural non-processed food. If hunting was not allowed, think of how many more wildlife caused, deadly accidents there would be because of the abundance wildlife. Typically those who consider humans as animals (evolutionists) believe that it is also wrong to kill animals. But how can they justify the act of animals killing animals? Most animals kill for food, but studies show that some animals kill other animals for reasons other than food. Whether it is for defending their young, their territory, and even for pleasure, it all happens. So if we are "animals" [evolutionistic thinking] then what is wrong with humans killing animals? Nothing in my opinion. Whether it is for food, to protect our crops, to prevent deadly accidents, etc, there are plenty of reasons. If you are a follower of the Bible then read Genesis, it says plain and simple that God gives man the right to hunt animals of the air, land, and sea.
Cons: None.
2007-11-06 02:48:40
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answered by Reagan '12 6
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Excuse me everything we eat has to be killed whether its plant animal or vegetable.* Dog fighting is cruel & promoted for betting & gambling=$$$$$.* You are trying to compare apples with oranges.* Hunting is distinctly different from Dog fighting.* You cannot put them in the same category.* They are totally opposite from each other.* "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." There is nothing immoral about Hunting.* Some people prefer to Hunt and some do not.* Either you Hunt or you don't.* End of story.* Have a nice Life.*.......Educate Yourself.*
2007-11-06 02:28:14
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answered by dca2003311@yahoo.com 7
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I think it's a great day when my husband brings home a deer.
My 9 yr old son is also a hunter.
Yes they hunt for the fun, and for the bonding of together time.
When they get home Venison is what's for supper.
We do also have people around here that will kill a big buck just for the horns and leave the rest. THAT IS WRONG!!!!
2007-11-06 01:11:23
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answered by RLD 2
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Dog fighting is cruel because it is just for the fun of watching the dogs tear each other up. Rather sick if you ask me. Hunting is to put food on my table, a meat that is better for you than the meat you buy in the store. And only species that have populations that can support hunting are allowed to be hunted. Endangered species can not be hunted and programs to help these species are supported in large part by hunting liscenses and excise taxes on sporting goods. Many protected species would not have survived had they not been protected and programs funded by the excise tax on sporting goods not been there to provide help for them.
2007-11-06 01:24:34
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answered by countryguyhfc 5
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