To all you creationists and intelligent designers...?

Question

How do you propose to explain a complex problem such as the origins of life by saying it was created by god or another higher power? Do you not see that it is ridiculous to suggest an even more complex problem as a solution? Who created the god/designer??

And they it would have to be far more complex and unlikely then evolution. Its just silly logic.

Evolution has nothing to do with random chance and if you really think that I suggest you pick up a biology book that was written this century rather the bible that contains primative mans childlike attempt to explain our existence.

I am embarrassed and saddened for you.

Answer 1

OK evolution is not disproven and is a theory with many facts to back it up.

The REV ALBERT EINSTEIN makes a typical misinterpretation of David Kitts. What Kitts is talking about is the process of changing from one species to another, not from one large class of organisms to another! This is a typical smoke and mirrors tactic employed by Christians who don't check their sources or simply read one line and not the context.

To those talking about transitional fossils not being found then please read this

There are many transitional fossils. The only way that the claim of their absence may be remotely justified, aside from ignoring the evidence completely, is to redefine "transitional" as referring to a fossil that is a direct ancestor of one organism and a direct descendant of another. However, direct lineages are not required; they could not be verified even if found. What a transitional fossil is, in keeping with what the theory of evolution predicts, is a fossil that shows a mosaic of features from an older and more recent organism.


Transitional fossils may coexist with gaps. We do not expect to find finely detailed sequences of fossils lasting for millions of years. Nevertheless, we do find several fine gradations of fossils between species and genera, and we find many other sequences between higher taxa that are still very well filled out.

The following are fossil transitions between species and genera:


Human ancestry. There are many fossils of human ancestors, and the differences between species are so gradual that it is not always clear where to draw the lines between them.


The horns of titanotheres (extinct Cenozoic mammals) appear in progressively larger sizes, from nothing to prominence. Other head and neck features also evolved. These features are adaptations for head-on ramming analogous to sheep behavior (Stanley 1974).


A gradual transitional fossil sequence connects the foraminifera Globigerinoides trilobus and Orbulina universa (Pearson et al. 1997). O. universa, the later fossil, features a spherical test surrounding a "Globigerinoides-like" shell, showing that a feature was added, not lost. The evidence is seen in all major tropical ocean basins. Several intermediate morphospecies connect the two species, as may be seen in the figure included in Lindsay (1997).


The fossil record shows transitions between species of Phacops (a trilobite; Phacops rana is the Pennsylvania state fossil; Eldredge 1972; 1974; Strapple 1978).


Planktonic forminifera (Malmgren et al. 1984). This is an example of punctuated gradualism. A ten-million-year foraminifera fossil record shows long periods of stasis and other periods of relatively rapid but still gradual morphologic change.


Fossils of the diatom Rhizosolenia are very common (they are mined as diatomaceous earth), and they show a continuous record of almost two million years which includes a record of a speciation event (Miller 1999, 44-45).


Lake Turkana mollusc species (Lewin 1981).


Cenozoic marine ostracodes (Cronin 1985).


The Eocene primate genus Cantius (Gingerich 1976, 1980, 1983).


Scallops of the genus Chesapecten show gradual change in one "ear" of their hinge over about 13 million years. The ribs also change (Pojeta and Springer 2001; Ward and Blackwelder 1975).


Gryphaea (coiled oysters) become larger and broader but thinner and flatter during the Early Jurassic (Hallam 1968).

The following are fossil transitionals between families, orders, and classes:


Human ancestry. Australopithecus, though its leg and pelvis bones show it walked upright, had a bony ridge on the forearm, probably vestigial, indicative of knuckle walking (Richmond and Strait 2000).


Dinosaur-bird transitions.


Haasiophis terrasanctus is a primitive marine snake with well-developed hind limbs. Although other limbless snakes might be more ancestral, this fossil shows a relationship of snakes with limbed ancestors (Tchernov et al. 2000). Pachyrhachis is another snake with legs that is related to Haasiophis (Caldwell and Lee 1997).


The jaws of mososaurs are also intermediate between snakes and lizards. Like the snake's stretchable jaws, they have highly flexible lower jaws, but unlike snakes, they do not have highly flexible upper jaws. Some other skull features of mososaurs are intermediate between snakes and primitive lizards (Caldwell and Lee 1997; Lee et al. 1999; Tchernov et al. 2000).


Transitions between mesonychids and whales.


Transitions between fish and tetrapods.


Transitions from condylarths (a kind of land mammal) to fully aquatic modern manatees. In particular, Pezosiren portelli is clearly a sirenian, but its hind limbs and pelvis are unreduced (Domning 2001a, 2001b).


Runcaria, a Middle Devonian plant, was a precursor to seed plants. It had all the qualities of seeds except a solid seed coat and a system to guide pollen to the seed (Gerrienne et al. 2004).


A bee, Melittosphex burmensis, from Early Cretaceous amber, has primitive characteristics expected from a transition between crabronid wasps and extant bees (Poinar and Danforth 2006).

The following are fossil transitionals between kingdoms and phyla:


The Cambrian fossils Halkiera and Wiwaxia have features that connect them with each other and with the modern phyla of Mollusca, Brachiopoda, and Annelida. In particular, one species of halkieriid has brachiopod-like shells on the dorsal side at each end. This is seen also in an immature stage of the living brachiopod species Neocrania. It has setae identical in structure to polychaetes, a group of annelids. Wiwaxia and Halkiera have the same basic arrangement of hollow sclerites, an arrangement that is similar to the chaetae arrangement of polychaetes. The undersurface of Wiwaxia has a soft sole like a mollusk's foot, and its jaw looks like a mollusk's mouth. Aplacophorans, which are a group of primitive mollusks, have a soft body covered with spicules similar to the sclerites of Wiwaxia (Conway Morris 1998, 185-195).


Cambrian and Precambrain fossils Anomalocaris and Opabinia are transitional between arthropods and lobopods.


An ancestral echinoderm has been found that is intermediate between modern echinoderms and other deuterostomes (Shu et al. 2004).
Links:
Hunt, Kathleen. 1994-1997. Transitional vertebrate fossils FAQ. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

Miller, Keith B. n.d. Taxonomy, transitional forms, and the fossil record. http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Miller.html

Patterson, Bob. 2002. Transitional fossil species and modes of speciation. http://www.origins.tv/darwin/transitionals.htm

Thompson, Tim. 1999. On creation science and transitional fossils. http://www.tim-thompson.com/trans-fossils.html
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EDIT and to Gigi, you fail to understand that it is impossible to reach the speed of light. As we approach the speed of light we get heavier and require infinitely more energy to try to reach the speed of light. The faster we get the harder it become to the point of impossibility.

As for Big Bang detractors, explain the red shift expansion, the cosmic background radiation, the solutions to Einstein's equations, the fact that the same physics that describes how the big bang works has led to super fast computers. If it was wrong for the big bang, those computers wouldn't work either.

Explain why, if creation is correct, that night and day occurred before the mechanisms for night and day were created (the sun and moon). Explain why we see the stars, when their light should not have reached us by now!!!! You have no answers except, God did it!!!! There is no evidence that the laws of physics were different thousands of years ago. There is a lot of evidence to show that the Big Bang theory is correct. That goes for evolution too. The theory of evolution has stood since 1859 and nobody has brought it down. That is a good test in itself. Big Bang theory has stood since around the time of Einstein and nobody has come up with a better model that fits the data.

Of course Christians try to make the theories fit, like Dr Humphrey's and his Starlight and Time book, but then when it is put to the test it falls apart and is exposed as bad mathematics and even incorrect mathematics.

Answer 2

If it was that easy to 'see', there would be no creationists.

It is easier to equate everything that is not understood to the undefinable god and this book penned by human beings.

--- For the person claiming that intermediate species do not exist, do yourself a favour and research before you make a statement.

Evolution is a fact. It happens and there are biological and chemical evidence for it. _HOW_ evolution takes place is the debate and the how part is the theory. Anybody who claims that 'it is just a theory' does not now how a theory is determined at all.

5th grade? I'd say you are over estimating your fellow man.

The only thing a question like this does is exposing the lack of knowledge regarding the topic.

Answer 3

On the contrary, your post is what is sad. You claim that life came from non-life, (which can't be proven because it's impossible) in universe situation where if one of a hundred things went wrong in under a split second, it would not happen. But that's not random chance?
Hello?

Until you've completed English 101, you should be too embarrassed to post here and attempt to convince people of incredibly complex scientific theories you don't understand.

Answer 4

That is, in all honesty, the one question that defies explanation. Where DID the creator come from? However, here's the way I see it. When you study the bible and recognize it's truthfulness, as can be seen in it's accuracy when it touches on matter of science and history (and backed up by archeology), then I put faith in it's author. Ask yourself this honestly. Imagine you are in a truly desperate situation. Say you are seriously ill and with a family to support. You are concerned for your own life and the well being of your family. A stranger comes up to you and offers you whatever you need. He'll even bring in specialists in whatever your illness happens to be, pay your medical bills and make sure your family is taken care of while you're in the hospital. In fact, he promises you a new home and a good-paying job so you don't have to worry again. No strings attached. He's just a kind hearted individual who wants to help you. Are you going to play 20 questions with your potential benefactor? Ask him where he got his money, where he was born, who his parents were, where he went to school? What if he mentioned he's from a country you'd never heard of. Would you say, "Hey dude, no thanks, I have never heard of your home country, I don't know where you've come from or how you got here."? Or will you gratefully accept his generous offer?

It doesn't matter that I don't know where God came from, only that I can trust in his existence and can rely on what he has promised to do for mankind in the future.

Answer 5

The God/Designer was not created .If a Creator created the God/Designer then who created the creator of the God/Designer.And who created the creator of the creator of the God designer. How far do you want to go back?

Answer 6

No it is not silly. You are looking at this earth and its physics as the only way. Intelligent people know that physics change when we leave this earth. When you hit the speed of light there is no such thing as time. Time is simply a way for us to deal with life. IF you hit the speed of light, you don't age, there is no time, have you not read anything that Nasa has put out? God says in the Scriptures, long before we knew that when you hit the speed of light there is no time, The Bible said that God is LIGHT. Oh did you catch that???? If you actually opened it and studied science and scriptures you will find out that God is right and you are wrong. Yep I said it, You are WRONG.Think about it. Have a good life.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

do you seriously think that you are going to get that answer on Yahoo answers of all places??That is THE question of all times and suddenly you think if you post it here someone is going to miraculaously give you the answer??

All you are trying to do is rile the masses in here. And that is all you will get with a question like that.

Seriously...go climb a mountain...sit on the cliff while meditating for days on end on top of a wicked fast...you might get the answer...when you do, be sure to part the red sea and come in and tell us all the wisdom you learned. Ask me a cleaning question and I will give you the answer.

Answer 9

You ask a good question.
However, you ask a university question to a fifth grader.
That means that although the answer exists, a fifth grader should not be expected to know it.
Mankind's fund of knowledge, at the moment, amounts to about a fifth grader.

Answer 10

The complexities of living organisms pose much greater problems for evolutionists. It is becoming increasingly obvious that random chance mutation could not possibly account for the complex variety of life.
If God exists and is truly God it is no problem at all. God existed before time; He created time and he is outside of time. Therefore God has no beginning or end; it's just that human minds are incapable of understanding such a God therefore they choose to deny Him.

Answer 11

Most important thing is to define what one means by word god