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And three days in the grave. Well he needed a little rest. After all he had been roaming the hills preaching without a rest for awhile now.
Really what kind of a sacrifice was that? And how exactly did that pay for the sins of the world?

2007-11-05 16:54:12 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Oh He felt the pain, who said He didn't? Read the Holy Bible if you really want to know the truth.

2007-11-05 16:58:26 · answer #1 · answered by Sweet Suzy 777! 7 · 2 4

The historical Jesus didn't die on the cross. Judas did Jesus a favor by pointing out a Jesus imposter to the Romans. Judas and Jesus were part of the same religious sect and the sect saw the danger that Jesus was facing and also the potential to make him into a martyr and so they protected Jesus by pointing out an imposter while at the same time fulfilling the Jewish prophesies. Jesus, while in hiding (and now supposedly dead), "rose from the dead" to visit his friends that did not know about the deception. The Gospel of Judas, recently found, mentions this betrayal of the Romans in the line "For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me", a reference to the man that claimed he was Jesus, not Jesus himself.

The virtual martyrdom of Jesus then set into motion the events that led to the Christian movement. Without that event, his basic teachings wouldn't have carried the weight they did.

The idea that he died for the sins of the world was something that was made up after the event to further the weight of his basic teachings of love and humanity. It gave converts the feeling that they weren't bound by their wrong doings but instead could turn around at any time. This was later modified by the Catholic church that saw fear as a good tool for "salvation" and ethical adhearance, and so came the ideas of a personified Devil to oppose the personified God and Original Sin to make the believer think that at anytime they could go to Hell for their actions, not forgiven automatically...though being forgiven is still a belief. This duality in beliefs, to this day, serves as a major conflict within many die-hard Catholics and to some lesser extents in other versions of Christianity (though there are still some smaller versions that push the dualities to the extremes, such as the Shakers).

2007-11-05 17:45:56 · answer #2 · answered by Reese 2 · 0 1

if by the passion you mean that disgusting movie from that retard Mel Gibson than i have no idea,i refuse to watch it that man is in no way shape or form even remotely to give out lessons on how to be a good christian,that being said i do believe that Jesus did suffer and he probably still is,all that Crucifixion and torture and for what society is worse people are worse.the sacrifices he made were many and yet none of us are ant wiser or kinder its a bloody shame what a waste

2007-11-06 00:49:10 · answer #3 · answered by emma_undoo 4 · 0 0

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2017-01-05 00:16:17 · answer #4 · answered by carabez 3 · 0 0

Crucifiction was a real method of torture and execution used by the ancient Romans. Frankly, I find it more than little disturbing that this vile method of killing people has become fetishised to the extent that it has become a symbol of faith for the religious.

If Jesus really was a god and if he really was crucified, then to my mind he deserves rather less respect for dying in this painful way than the thousands of others who died in rather less certain circumstances.

Perhaps one of the victims of the CIA's "waterboarding" method of torture (suffocation/partial drowning in a bath full of water) might inspire a future cult to wear little bath medallions around their necks.

2007-11-05 17:08:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Actually, you are quite correct to question that aspect of Christianity because Jesus himself quoted Hosea when he said "I will have mercy, not sacrifice."

If you read the things Jesus actually said about that event, it will not end up sounding like "good news" for mankind. His Kingdom Gospel was not about blood for sin... it was about culturing the spiritual life.

This free resource gives the details.

2007-11-05 17:05:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

According to the first chapter of the book of John - Jesus is God, became flesh and dwelt among us. While in the flesh, he felt all the pain (and all sensations that went along with it.) Why? So he could take into himself all the penalty of sin that was supposed to be given to man. What are these penalties? Eventual corruption and death of the body, weakness and dependency on nature to survive, separation from the perfecty communication with the Spirit of God. That's why Jesus felt pain so that he could experience the pain of sin that was supposed to be for man. He died and went to hell (that was supposed to be us also.) He cried out, "My God, my God! Why hast Thou forsaken me!" - he experienced separation. He thirst, he hungered, tempeted, grew tired, needed rest; he wept, he laughed, he went to a marriage feast - all these so that Jesus could experience everything and pay for everything. When He died, he paid for our sin - became the Lamb of God. That's why on the cross he cried out, "It is finished!" - which means the penalty of sin has been paid in full. Now that's sacrifice! He did it for whom? To us who are still sinners! Rom 5:8 - while we were yet sinners, Christ died for our sins.

I suggest you read the gospel of John and the book of Hebrews to appreciate in full what I have just written.

God bless you.

2007-11-05 17:13:24 · answer #7 · answered by paulyaranon007 2 · 0 0

Seriously I have no idea. Anyone these days would be happy with three days rest!! Rest is so hard to get.

I don't understand how he paid for our sins by dying either?? Seeing as we still go to jail when we sin, we still have punishments. I hadn't even committed any sins when he was killed, how did he die for mine??

2007-11-05 17:03:59 · answer #8 · answered by Miss Blue & Riley too. 6 · 3 0

He was also fully human. Would it have hurt you to be treated like that? That's how much it hurt him. The same. He was able to bear it because He was God. But before Jesus was born God was not merged into a human being that same way. Jesus needed sleep and food just like you do. Rest too. Wanna spend three days in a grave? It wasn't a picnic, and that was after right after the cross. If it was me dying on a cross unfairly I'd have been making a whole lot of noise complaining. How exactly it paid for the sins of the world is a bit tricky to explain. Think on how Adam blamed Eve. It was her fault he ate something? Like she shoved it down his throat? The excuses abound for him to blame her even to today. And she blamed the Serpent. As if it had done the same thing to her? People still blame Satan. So, God gave them us all a Scapegoat. One that He approves of, since we humans always blame someone else. And every nation and culture does or has done it, to this day. God actually approves of you putting your sins on Jesus. No joke, Jesus is the official Lamb of God. John the Baptist even publically said so. Jesus was/is God's Word in the flesh. See John Chapter One. He had to come as a person cuz a Bible can't bleed and die for anyone. And God could do that, because it was His own self. He knew He wouldn't stay dead. It was His choice. The rest of us can't fix it if we let someone else kill us. He could. So, Jesus dying was your Scapegoat. Your own personal whipping boy just like Crown Prince's used to have. He got your punishment, my punishment, the punishment every person on this earth deserves, sin is just that bad. And we are all sinners. And you get to be forgiven. Cuz the punishments been paid out. Only someone else got it. For you. Now, you get to try to do your life right. And try to do it right again. God's mercy is new every morning. It's not used up and half gone when you need that third or fourth chance to try and quit whatever offends Him. And you get to keep trying/working on it, until you conquer it. All because He died in your place. And mine. And for each person in "the whole world." You just weren't going to be able to break out of hell, unless Jesus took your place. He knew He could do it for you. In fact, all who had died until Jesus did had to wait too, until he broke hells hold on humanity. If no one else in all the world, through all of time was going to "get it," Jesus would still have gone through all of that, for just only you. Even if it saved no one else. He thinks it's that big of a deal. You are just that important to Him.

2007-11-05 17:27:23 · answer #9 · answered by havurataks 2 · 0 0

Well who really believes that's what really happened anyway?

(Oh... really? Ehhhhhh, sorry....?)

But seriously... there was something about that Jesus dude. Something tells me the story should be interpreted a little differently, then we might be closer to the truth. Interesting thing, you know - Jesus Christ never asked anyone to create Christianity. Methinks he would have viewed it a heresy.

If you get my meaning.

2007-11-05 17:04:46 · answer #10 · answered by pr0ph3t1cl1v1ty 5 · 0 0

Well, I'm not really an expert (not having been there), but it would seem that the pain he experienced would be symbolic of the pain that we cause ourselves when we sin against God. As such, I believe that he did indeed experience very real pain, although the camera angles on it probably weren't quite that good in real life.

2007-11-05 16:58:09 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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