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or one person who ( God almighty who is Jesus Christ) ?

JWs translate this verse in such a way as to make it appear that two persons are in view - the "great God" ( the Father) and the " Savior " ( Jesus Christ ). They argue that this verse "clearly differentiates between ( God ) and Jesus Christ, the one through whom God provides the salvation. " ( Reasoning from the Scriptures 1089, 421

2007-11-05 15:08:58 · 11 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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According to the Greek text, the phrase "...of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ" is to be taken all as one, in singular fashion, what is called a "genitive absolute". The first word "of" is key for a genitive absoulute to exist. And the rest of the adverbal clause that it's in, "...waiting for the blessed hope and appearance..." is not in this genitive case. This means that ALL of the words that come before the last word or words, that being "Jesus Christ" of the genitive phrase must be descriptors of the last word(s). So, Jesus Christ is our great God and Savior. Titus 1:3 and 3:4 confirms this by the author using, "God our Savior".

2007-11-06 10:31:35 · answer #1 · answered by Tom 4 · 4 0

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
Yes, it refers to God, the father and God the son, Jesus Christ.
God almighty is not Jesus Christ because God the father is mightier than God the son who is Jesus Christ.
JW is fal;se religion who do not believe that Jesus Christ is God inspite of the fact that it is very clear in John Chapter 1 which reads:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
jtm

2007-11-05 15:25:39 · answer #2 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 1 1

Oh Nina..Follow this Logic if you Can.
Instead of announcing that he was God in the flesh, Jesus Christ said: “I am God’s Son.” (John 10:36) As Jehovah God’s perfect Representative, Jesus also said: “I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.” (John 5:30) When Jesus was dying for Mankind he prayed to the great Creator in the heavens, addressing him as “My God, my God.” (Matthew 27:46) After his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” (John 20:1, 17) Since Jesus Christ was not God incarnate, no one who saw Jesus could say that he had thus seen God.
John, the apostle whom Jesus especially loved, confirmed the fact that the apostles were not seeing God when they looked at Jesus. Under inspiration John said: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John 1:18)
So you see Nina...or do you?

2007-11-05 15:29:15 · answer #3 · answered by conundrum 7 · 2 1

The one true God is three seperate distinct persons who are a single nature and substance. God almighty is referred to as the first person of the blessed Trinity: God the Father. Jesus Christ is the 2nd person of the blessed Trinity-incarnate. The Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the Blessed Trinity. God is one, but isn't a solitary being, rather, God is an incredible unity of three personal beings-an eternal family of self-giving life and love. God bless.

"Hear O' Israel, The LORD our God is ONE Lord" Deut. 6:4

the hebrew word for "one" in the preceding verse is "ehad", meaning a "compound one". On the other hand, the hebrew word for a "singular one" is "yahid". Therefore God is "ehad"-a unity of three persons.

2007-11-05 15:14:53 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Revelation 21:22 "And I did not see a temple in it, for God the Almighty is its temple, also the Lamb."

Philemon 1:3 "Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. " (KJV)

how many are here one or Two? two right , so exactly the same in Titus.

By the way why we see always two persons if they are three?

also I checked the greek scriptures and is not render in the way you say....it is like the NWT... go on check it.

2007-11-05 15:13:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Nina... explain these scriptures from KJV translation not touched by JW's translators

Acts 7:
55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

2007-11-05 15:21:51 · answer #6 · answered by Tommiecat 7 · 2 2

No. Titus 2:13 uses the Granville Sharp construction, which is a grammar rules indicating that "great god" and "savior" both refer to the same person.

2007-11-05 15:21:13 · answer #7 · answered by Jonathan 7 · 2 2

God is the father Jesus is the son there is also a trinity (3)father,(God)son (jesus) and holy spirit

2007-11-05 15:26:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Reason why orthodox n catholic called Him, Jesus Pantokrator, creator of all, omnipotent n almighty

2015-07-31 06:39:23 · answer #9 · answered by Mayflower 7 · 1 0

see hebrews 1 i think. in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.......also in genesis where it says let us make man in our image......us and our mean there is more than 1.

2007-11-05 15:18:07 · answer #10 · answered by trooper753 5 · 1 0

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