Proof all around us?Scientists once believed in the idea of random chance plus time yielding life, but in 1965, the Big Bang theory came to dominate in cosmology. This showed that the universe was not infinitly old, but less then five billion years old and with that the mathematical odds of assembling ONE living organism are so astronomical, that even if you optimized the conditions it wouldn't work. The probability of linking JUST one hundred amino acids to create one protein molecule by chance would be the same as a blindfolded man finding one marked grain of sand somewhere in the vastness of the Sahara Desert, three differant times. Plus the FACT that the fossil records show that in rocks dated back some 570 million years, there is the sudden appearance of nearly all the animal phyla and they just suddenly appear, with no evidence for Darwinism. Also there are about 50 constants and quantities that must be balanced to a mathematically infinitesimal degree for ANY life to be possible
2007-11-05
12:50:03
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TYRONE S
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The odds of life being an accident are so high(in other words, the odds for all practical purposes are zero) that ONLY people who aren't educated in biochemistry would still believe life emerged by chance. Scientist have tried to come up with creative theories to TRY to explain how biopolymers(such as proteins)became assembled with only the right building blocks(amino acids)and only thecorrect isomers(left handed amino acids)joined with only the correct peptide bonds in only the correct sequence. The only logical explanation is that there is a creator vastly smart and powerful. Could that be God?
2007-11-05
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To tehabwa: No matter how you try to make your opinion fact, it does not effect the truth. You say to "learn" science, but you neglect the fact that some say that darwinism is fact and some say that creationism is fact and thus you have "scientist" calling each other liars, who make up "silly" ideas. Science is only science if it can be reproduced in controlled environments, but no one has created a planet with life evloving on it purely by chance in a lab. Or for that matter, even found a planet with life substained by completely different conditions. You believe in an idea based on someone else's interperation of "evidence" and then call someone else's interpertaion silly. I look at ALL science and look for common ground, while you show that you do not believe in or have "learned" true science, but actually hold on to a belief like one who holds to a religion. Your evidence is as objectable as any evidence any religious person can offer. To not see that would be silly.
2007-11-05
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Also, my evidence is as objectable as any, based on the fact that even though I have what I see as evidence both in my faith and my knowledge of science is not the smoking gun that the world needs to stop insulting each other for their interpertaions of the evidence, and that is why I asked if this is proof and did not state that it was.
2007-11-05
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It's a good proof against evolution. But of itself, it is not a solid proof for God. However, it doesn't leave many other options open.
2007-11-05 15:44:07
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answered by BC 6
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No, what you've written (since it's not what non-believers actually SAY -- which is something you could find out about, if you wanted to) is not a proof of god.
The SUN is about 5 billion years old; the universe is older.
The mathematical odds of any life coming into being are not nearly as high as you say. We don't yet know exactly how it happened, but there are some hypotheses that explain how it MIGHT have happened. It certainly didn't start with an event as unlikely as your blind man.
You can make up silly arguments -- doing so does NOT prove your point. At each point, the probabilities weren't as huge as you claim.
You've got the Cambrian Explosion all wrong. There is clear evidence of life much before 570 million years. For most of the time of life on Earth, it was very simply, in 2 forms.
The fossil record, which is a really small subset of all things that have ever lived (most things don't leave fossils) does show a gabunch of complex life forms.
"Suddenly" in geological terms does NOT mean "instantanseously" but many thousands of years.
There's overwhelming evidence for Darwinism.
That life that does in fact exist on Earth requires Earth-like constants and quantities simply means that, if those things weren't so here, then life with those requirements wouldn't have arisen here.
If this planet were not able to have any life, there wouldn't be any; living things that happened to arise through mutation that require things that weren't in their environment died.
Before saying that you have proof evolution is false, you first need to know what it says.
Making up a bunch of silly ideas, and saying their silly is NOT a refutation of non-silly ideas.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/
Just on the off-chance you're willing to actually try to understand what scientists say, there's a resource.
I could say "America doesn't exist, because people who think it does think it's red, white, and blue, and there's no land that's actually like that. Therefore I have a proof that America doesn't exist."
Well, no. No one who says American exists says that the land itself is those colors. So I haven't proved anything.
Either learn about science, or just admit you're unwilling to. Making stuff up does nothing.
2007-11-05 13:48:30
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answered by tehabwa 7
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No.
No.
Please learn to differentiate between theory, fact and belief.
Theory-best guess based on available data.
Fact-something proven to be repeatable or duplicate-able, e=mc2
Belief-wishful thinking mixed with emotional hysteria.
The big bang theory is based of very little data, come back in a hundred years they may have some facts by then.
2007-11-05 13:02:58
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answered by Anonymous
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I think the current estimate to the age of the unvierse is 12-15 billion years, not 5
2007-11-05 12:54:37
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answered by I'm an Atheist 3
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Not really. if you think the probabilities is high in the case of your blind man and the grain of sand imagine the unlikelyhood of a creature so complicated that it would oversee such a probability.
2007-11-05 12:54:57
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answered by dogpatch USA 7
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Big Bang is just a theory..which means it hasnt been proven yet. some people think that god caused the energy for the rock to explode others think it more in a scientific way because science and religion never get along and agree with the same things.
2007-11-05 12:56:01
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answered by Anonymous
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No, there is no proof of God. This is just proof that we really need to improve on teaching science in school.
2007-11-05 12:58:09
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answered by dawnsdad 6
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Errr....
Not really, no.
If you have to say "probability" yourself to back it up then you admit it's not infallible, thus open to debate.
2007-11-05 12:56:16
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answered by munchkin 7
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What a rich and fascinating array of subjects you know nothing about!
CD
2007-11-05 12:57:55
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answered by Super Atheist 7
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Absolutely. Supernaturally...God is real
and even Scientifically...God is real- there's MUCH more evidence I could give you if you want it
2007-11-05 12:58:34
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answered by crosswalk73 1
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