Where is the CLEAR, UNDISPUTED Evidence for the Trinity in the Bible?

Question

If God is truly 3 persons who are equally God, there should be an ABUNDANCE of CLEAR statements to that effect found all throughout the Bible. Yet NOT ONE SCRIPTURE of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein God is shown as three persons could be found:
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NOT ONE SCRIPTURE of a description of God using the word "three" could be found:
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NOT ONE clear scripture where the Holy Spirit is called "God, the Holy Spirit" could be found:
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NOT ONE clear scripture where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father) could be found:
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I thought that everybody already knew that 1 John 5:7 in the KJV was a fake addition desparately added by trinitarians. But since it appears that not everyone knows this, for the sake of brevity, here is just one of the dozens of listings concerning the spurious nature of 1 John 5:7 in the KJV:

"a Latin interpolation, certainly spurious" ("not genuine, authentic, or true; not from the claimed, pretended, or proper source; counterfeit"). -The Expositor's Greek Testament in a note as found in the Received Text and the KJV

Answer 1

No one has addressed the question: a clear, undisputed (by trinitarian scholars themselves) scripture saying "God the Son" or "God the Holy Spirit" or "Three [anything] make up the one God."

These are surely to be expected (if the trinity were true) just as "God the Father" is clearly and indisputably repeated many times in scripture.

God would not mislead us in something which means eternal life: "This is eternal life: their knowing you [Father], the only true God, and the one you sent forth: Jesus Christ." - John 17:1, 3.

Just as the essential knowledge of who the Messiah is is repeated clearly over and over in the scriptures, so should the equally essential knowledge of the different persons who make up the trinity should be so described in scripture [if true].

But neither these equivalents to "God the Father" nor a clear statement of the trinity is found anywhere in scripturE!

Answer 2

Not that you will read this, because you have made your mind up. But for those who are really interested in this question.

CALLED GOD: FATHER, Philippians 1:2 "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." SON, John 1:1, 14 "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." "4 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." Colossians 2:9 "For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;"
HOLY SPIRIT, Acts 5:3-4 "3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

CREATOR: FATHER, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Isaiah 64:8 "But now, O LORD,
You are our Father;
We are the clay, and You our potter;
And all we are the work of Your hand.
SON, John 1:3 "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." Colossians 1:16 "For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him."
HOLY SPIRIT, Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God has made me,
And the breath of the Almighty gives me life." Job 26:13 "By His Spirit He adorned the heavens;
His hand pierced the fleeing serpent."

There are many more verses. You can't just take one verse. You have to take the whole Bible.

I would normally sit here and finish the last 52 verses I have in mind, but I don't feel well.

Answer 3

*** "I thought that everybody already knew that 1 John 5:7 in the KJV was a fake addition desparately added by trinitarians" ***

Perhaps all Muslims "know" that, but where is the proof it was added later? You offer no proof, only conjecture. Show your proof. The Greek has been translated as

5:7 For there are three that testify,
5:8 the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three are in agreement.”

Perhaps you should learn Greek before you come to conclusions about what the correct translation should be.

Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I AM" and "I am the Alpha and the Omega" This equates Jesus to the eternal.

Jesus claimed to have the authority to forgive sins. Only God can do that. Again, Jesus and God as equivalent in this respect.

Jesus confirmed he was the Son of the living God when Peter called him that, but also told his apostles not to reveal this fact to anyone.

Answer 4

there isn't any clean assertion of Trinity in the full Bible. It have been decreased to mere interpretation of adult males. i'm respectfully agree that God isn't Triune and Trinity or some form of Godhead bodily manifested in any human at each time. it isn't any longer a danger that God might desire to deliver area of His very essence, and make it flesh, in simple terms because it isn't any longer a danger that God might desire to deliver His very Spirit right here via fact God no longer all of sudden replace right into a million/2 guy and a million/2 God to to alter right into a zygote and toddler in an entire individual. His know-how is suited .God is often one and in ordinary terms, Formless and Unseen and he his the author of all issues. while God intends a count number it somewhat is complete!., God is above the Heaven and earth and His know-how is encompassing each little thing and all mysteries. the inspiration is crystal clean, something it is new isn't God. there isn't any longer something in besides is like God the Almighty.

Answer 5

The council of Nicea put the trinity together.
So that you may understand the trinity, I quote:

"Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten -- just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age of the other two.

So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God.

According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one we have but one. Each one is equal to himself and the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.

How is it possible to prove the existence of the Trinity?
Is it possible for a human being, who has been born but once, to comprehend, or to imagine the existence of three beings, each of whom is equal to the three?

Think of one of these beings as the father of one, and think of that one as half human and all God. and think of the third as having proceeded from the other two, and then think of all three as one. Think that after the father begot the son, the father was still alone, and after the Holy Ghost proceeded from the father and the son, the father was still alone -- because there never was and never will be but one God."

It is simple isn't it?

In other words: 1+1+1 = 3 + 1 = 3.

Love that dogma, it makes so much sense!

Answer 6

Mt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

See also http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/jdeity.html

Answer 7

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [Matthew 28:19].

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all [2 Corinthians 13:14].

To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].

Answer 8

What is the trinity? According to the Catholic Athanasian Creed: "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal."

WHERE in the Bible does it say that "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God"? NOWHERE!

Where in the Bible does it say that "the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord"? NOWHERE!

Where does it say in Scripture that "in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal"? NOWHERE!

Does 1 John 5:7 support the trinity? In that verse, there is a phrase that reads: "The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” It has been discovered to be a false addition to the Bible. That phrase cannot be found in any Greek manuscript written earlier than the fifteenth century. Modern Bibles do not contain that phrase.

Even if "The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" were not a false addition to the Bible, does it say that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are co-equal and co-eternal and that they all make up God? Not even close!

Trintarians say that God is THREE persons. Jesus said God is ONE person. At John 17:3, he said: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." In this verse, "only" means: "to the excusion of others." By calling his Father the ONLY true God, Jesus excluded everyone else, including himself, from being the true God.

1 Cor. 8:6 backs up the words of Jesus: "There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him."

Jesus' Father, Jehovah is the only true God.

Answer 9

Even the devil knows that Jesus is God....yet he and his followers will ALWAYS dispute it no matter what God says.

Mark 1:23-26
3 Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, 24 "What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are-the Holy One of God!"

25 "Be quiet!" said Jesus sternly. "Come out of him!" 26 The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.
(from New International Version)


Matt 4:5-7

5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written:

"'He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"

7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
(from New International Version)


Rom 1:1-4
1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God- 2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
(from New International Version)


1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
(from New International Version)


2 Peter 1:1
To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
(from New International Version)

Answer 10

Doesn't matter. You don't wish to hear it anyway. 2000 years of tradition, teaching and revelation and you are still askig for proof from a book compounded 4 centuries after Christ taught the apostles. Do you think every word they discussed is in there? That's why the tradition is important.
But you don't care, all you want is to discredit all of it.