Witnesses: Deuteronomy 12:16 states the following?

Question

Deuteronomy 12:16
But you must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water.


please explain the how the following are allowed

Any blood parts: all are derived from stored whole blood
All Blood “replacements”: all are derived from stored whole blood
All Transplants: all organs contain significant amount of blood
All non kosher meat : Contain Blood from the animal

M: this is a quote used the the WT&TS to explain to JW why they are not allowed to donate blood

Oxygent is the only "blood alternative" that is not created from whole blood and it is NOT FDA approved .. but good try

extravasculer fluid .. nice .. we in the real world call that blood..

whole red bloodcells , white blood cells and platelets .. try looking at that extra-vascular fluid under a microscrope .. and tell me how it 'takes on a red color"

Answer 1

I have raised these points before and all I got was the official 'party line', in other words hypocrisy. Either a sin is a sin or it is not. A sin cannot be a faction of a sin anymore than a faction of blood cannot be anything other than blood. Is a hand not human because it is only a part of the whole? The society is very clever at semantics and teaches it's members the same skills so don't expect a reasonable answer. What really gets my goat is that it is absolutely fine for another to sin in order for a JW to have life saving treatment; again utter hypocrisy. And now there are reports that to accept a blood transfusion will not result in disfellowshipment but dissasociation and that if the person who recieves the transfusion is truly repentant then they will be forgiven. Forgiven by whom? Does Jehovah abhor the taking in of blood or does he not. Does he command his followers to abstain from blood or not? If he does then the commandment should be very clear and the consequences as severe as if someone had committed any other grave sin consciously. And am I right that only Jehovah or Jesus have the right and ability to forgive? If so, where do the elders get off telling people that they can forgive sins? They really are no different from Catholic priests who they constantly criticize. Again utter hypocrisy. The society twists and turns in it's efforts to weasel out of any responsibility for the effects it's rulings have on peoples lives, hence the 'conscience clause'. They will have their day before the throne of God who will demand to know why they shepherded people down wrong routes. I hope they have a better excuse than 'it's a matter of conscience'

Answer 2

Scientists constantly change their minds all the time. What is safe later on proves to be fatal. Whenever Scientists concocts synthetic things to replace the real deal; it always ends up in tragedy. It's on the news all the time about people getting cancer and that death sentence is the worst by far. The anguish, pain, and suffering that the person goes through and also to mention the heart wrenching grief the families go through to see their love one suffer. The bottom line is, "Who has the right to say who can and cannot be saved when the end comes?" No one but YHWH holds that rights. This blood law is ridiculous and should be thrown out, because no one in Biblical days got the "death sentence" for it.

Answer 3

Some of the fractions of blood are PROTEINS.Water is part of plasma, Is water blood? Is protein Blood or not? Is a gene of a fraction of blood (e.g. Interferon) BLOOD?
Globulins, interferons, interleukins are fractions of blood, but those are PROTEINs. Is PROTEIN BLOOD STILL?


Blood alternatives are not All derived from whole blood.
For example, Oxygent is produced using patented emulsion manufacturing technology. Oxygent does not contain any human or animal blood components. It is manufactured in commercial-scale quantities using well-defined, cost-effective methods


If the food has left over blood in it, if you are being technical , then you are not 100% abstaining from blood, that’s why we always need to ask forgiveness to God. But notice though that in the Bible, it doesn’t require every single drop of blood to be removed from the animals to say that you abstain from blood. The requirement only is to properly bleed the animal, not 100% bleed, or every single drop of blood be removed.

The early Christians ate properly bled meat, but in God’s eyes they STILL abstain from blood eventhough not every single drop of blood is removed.

Who are the ones really violating the instruction to abstain from blood? Isn’t it those who deliberately have a lot of blood PUT IN their bodies either thru drinking , eating or transfusion?

Regarding fractions of blood, it is a PERSONAL decision. Why is it allowed? Because some people consider fractions as blood and some do not anymore. It is a personal decision we have to answer to God.

God’s law does NOT require that every single drop of blood be removed. It simply states that the animal should be bled

Then, too, there is extravascular fluid in the meat. This fluid may mix with traces of blood and take on a red color. The extravascular fluid filling the spaces between the cells is known as interstitial fluid and resembles blood plasma. But it is not blood and therefore does not come under the prohibition respecting blood. Hence the presence of a reddish fluid does not in itself make meat unsuitable for food. As long as an animal has been properly bled, its meat may Scripturally be used for food..

Answer 4

And below the proteins are molecules and atoms which by next year are not in your blood but in possibly a banana. Every 7 years, every cell in the human body is replaced with new cells made from material our bodies have consumed and old cells expelled in various ways.

The whole point is we can never expect to be rid of every single blood cell in what one eats. This was never the intent of the prohibition against blood. The degree to which we abstain from the parts of blood must be left up to a Christian trained conscience. Whole blood, whether by transfusion or left on meat we eat, is what is forbidden. So is to most of us, the parts of the blood that is easily identified. How far down the line it goes, is up to conscience trained by God's Word.

Answer 5

What is the text speaking about? If [you think that] it [is speaking] about [non-sacrificial] meat eaten to satisfy the appetite, to permit it for them without offering up any sacrificial portions, [we already have a reference to this, for Scripture] says elsewhere: “When the Lord, your God, expands your boundary… and you say, 'I will eat meat… [you may eat meat…]’” (verse 20). So what is this [verse] speaking about? It is [referring to] animals designated for holy [sacrificial] purposes that had [subsequently] become blemished, that they are to be redeemed [that is, replaced by their equivalent value in money] and they may [then] be eaten anywhere. Now one might think that [this rule applies] even if the blemish is a temporary one. Therefore, Scripture says: רַק -“However” [lit., “only.” This limits the permission to that of a permanent blemish]. — [Sifrei] you may slaughter and eat [meat]. You have no permission to sheer or milk [the blemished animals], but only to eat the [meat] after their ritual slaughter. — [Bech. 15b] the unclean and the clean [may eat thereof]. Since they formerly had holy status, about which it is stated: “And the flesh that touches any unclean thing shall not be eaten” (Lev. 7:19), it is necessary to give explicit permission for both the unclean and clean person alike to eat [from the meat, even] from the same dish… as of the deer and as of the gazelle. of which no sacrifice is [ever] brought. as of the deer, and as of the gazelle. This [comparison to a deer and a gazelle] exempts these [redeemed animals] from [the obligation of] “the foreleg, the jaws, and the maw” (see Deut. 18:3) [just as the deer and the gazelle are exempt from these gifts to the kohen]. — [Chul. 130a; Sifrei]
16. However, you shall not eat the blood. Although I said that these [animals] do not require sprinkling the blood on the altar, you shall not eat it. you shall spill it [on the ground] like water. [This comes] to tell you that it does not require covering [with earth (see Lev. 17:13)] (Sifrei ; Chul. 84a). Another explanation: [The phrase,“like water,” teaches us that] it is like water insofar as it renders seeds susceptible [for receiving ritual uncleanness (Lev. 11:38).] - [Chul. 35b]

Answer 6

hi, The nutritional regulations utilized to the Israelites decrease back then who have been under the regulation. Christ fufilled the regulation, so after his sacrifice we are no longer any greater obligated to maintain on with those regulations. for example, we now no longer could sacrifice animals the two. --------- Re Rustics answer (meant for sure to offend us)... with all due comprehend to him, he hasn't have been given a clue what he's speaking approximately. The regulation approximately blood replaced into reiterated in the Greek scriptures (New testomony) & is a command for all Christians in the present day no count if or no longer they opt for to maintain on with it or no longer. Acts 15:28,29

Answer 7

The Watchtower decided to not list every item to abstain from. Why should they since the apostles made it clear to abstain from blood, period. That would include what is listed.

Answer 8

It is my theory, that the Governing Body is little by little allowing partial Blood transfusions, to de-sensitize the Witnesses to the near future of accepting all Blood transfusions.....

They already allow transfusions in other countries as a mater of conscience.....


Let's examine just this :

In Bulgaria, if you have a transfusion, you are OK with God, it is up to your conscience....No problem with Jehovah


In the U.S. If you have a transfusion, you are disobedient to scripture and in god's disfavor, and in line to be disfellowshipped.

Am I missing something?

Members of the Governing Body are getting on in years, and will have to face this situation first hand...they already know that it is flawed theology...are they willing to die for it? I personally, think not.


Trustdel....Wrong! all scriptures that Witnesses bring out say, not to eat blood..not sumply to drain it...You can not play both sides of the issue...If you werw actually being faithful to YOUR beliefs, you wold have no animal products at all...You can not get all of the Blood out of meat

Answer 9

I see the change of this doctrine is in works.