JW's Jesus as God again.....?

Question

ok ok, you know what i am going to say

but before hand it's my understanding that Charles Taze Russell was an illuminati member, and is buried in a freemasonic graveyard in america and has a pyramid for a gravestone


why did the egyptians build pyramids

this is why someone would be so determined to deny Jesus as God

The 1914 revelation was about the end of the world

That did not hjappen but instead world war 1

Seems to me someone had prior knowledge to a horrible event all the same, a war sponsore by illuminati bankers,
anyway

Here is a quote from your own New World Translation:

Thats the copy of the bible the Watch tower society uses

13 And it came about when Joshua happened to be by Jer´i·cho that he proceeded to raise his eyes and look, and there there was a man standing in front of him with his drawn sword in his hand. So Joshua walked up to him and said to him: “Are you for us or for our adversaries?” 14 To this he said: “No, but I—as prince of the army of Jehovah I have now come.” With that Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself and said to him: “What is my lord saying to his servant?” 15 In turn the prince of the army of Jehovah said to Joshua: “Draw your sandals from off your feet, because the place on which you are standing is holy.” At once Joshua did so.


Why did Joshua fall flat on his face and bow before a man?

Why does this man give him holy orders?

Who was this man

why does every toehr bible say Angel at that verse?

If this is the arch-angel why does he bow to him?

Did Daneil bow to Gabriel?
Did mary bow to Gabriel?
Did John bow to Gabriel?

no, but Joshua bows to a man, or an Angel by any other translation

if this is the Arch Angel lets look at his name.

Michael is hebrew for he who is as God is.

So why does God call his son he who is as God is?

and more to the point why does Joshua bow before him and do what Moses did, remove his sandals when God told him to do so at MT Sinai?

Moises

This is the bible used by the watch tower society!!!!!!

And it does not say angel it says man

So why would a man receive worship

If he can't receive worship why does Your bible tell us so

This is the bible approved by the watchtower society, no other division of christianity uses it

so please expalin why Joshua is worhipping a man

I am not here to bash, i just want to show you the evidence in your societies own approved bible

peace in Chrsit

teemm, the one about Joshua bowing and worshipping the 'man' as described in the watch towers recommended bible

Keiichi, the bible gives no other example of a man bowing before another man

Show me one, just one, just one example of what you said in the whole bible

you can't

We have a man Joshua bowing to an angel

the only reason he can do that is becvuase this angel is arch angel Michael
Michael means he who is as God is

in every other bible Joshua bows to an angel

in your NWT version you change angel to man, thinking you have successfully corrupted the text

but alas Joshua bows to him, he is the captain of the Lords armies

John 5:18

18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Even the jews knew that to call yourself the Son of God was to make yourself equal to God, thats why The jews saught to kill him

this is why

what says you?

Answer 1

Charles Taze Russell repeatedly denied being involved with Freemasonry.

Russell plainly and repeatedly expressed his faith in the bible as the only inspired infallible means of knowing God's thoughts. It is true that Russell (and thousands of sincere non-Witness theologians in the late 1800's and early 1900's) was interested in pyramidology, but that was only because he (and they) believed that the dimensions of the Great Pyramid served to "echo" much of the prophecy which was entirely communicated by the bible itself.

Russell did not believe or teach that the Pyramid (or any pyramid) produced or channeled any mystical force, or channeled any two-way communication with heaven. He (and others, including non-Witnesses) simply believed its dimensions had significance to Christians and corresponded with the bible.

Russell's ideas about the significance of the pyramid's dimensions were wrong but not pagan, and they had no connection with the "Illuminati" or with Freemasonry. Interestingly, the bible plainly indicates that even the apostles made mistakes which were sometimes communicated for decades before being corrected. For example, the apostle Peter enjoyed remarkable privileges in the early congregation, but it seems that he was the source of an incorrect teaching about the apostle John; John himself finally corrected that wrong idea about 98 C.E., with his gospel.

(John 21:21-23) Peter said to Jesus: “Lord, what will this man do [that is, the apostle John]?” Jesus said to him: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.” In consequence, this saying went out among the brothers, that [the apostle John] would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?”


Of course, Jehovah's Witnesses have always acknowledged that C.T. Russell had a central role in re-establishing true Christianity in the 1870's. Yet Witnesses have never pretended to be followers of Russell any more than they pretended to be followers of Paul or Apollos or Cephas or of ANYONE but Christ Jesus. When seven million Jehovah's Witnesses preach from door to door each month, they work to preach the "good news about the Christ".

(1 Corinthians 1:12-17) What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to Apollos,” “But I to Cephas,” ...Paul was not impaled for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? ...Christ dispatched me, not to go baptizing, but to go declaring the good news


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Answer 2

This was the Lord Jesus Christ in a pre-incarnate appearance (Christophany). He appeared as the Angel (Messenger) of the Lord, as if He were a man.Notice in chapter 6:2; And the LORD said to Joshua; 5:13-14 says Joshua worshiped Him and He told Joshua the same thing He told Moses in Exodus 3:5. Only God is to be worshiped and He accepts worship. That is why Jesus accepted worship because of who He is, God. The Holy angels do not accept worship. Jesus never told anyone who worshiped Him to get up but the angels did. The JW's do not believe Jesus is God therefore they make God a liar.

Answer 3

And in what change all what you say that Jesus Christ will rule the earth after Armageddon during 1000 years and transform this planet in a paradise full of perfect humans and after that will destroy Satan and give the knigdom to Jehovah as the bible says in 1 Corithians 15:28?

that is the main topic of Jehovah ´s witnesses can you prove that is false?

Joshua 5:14 "14And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?"

why an angel received worship?

simple cause the translator used that world cause all created thing can´t receive worship.

Answer 4

first of all, Jesus is Jehovah God, the Almighty. Jesus isn't his very own Father. This heresy comes from a entire misrepresentation, and fake effect of the Holy Trinity. contained in the Holy Trinity, 3 seperate persons are one God. The Son (Jesus) is endlessly begotten by using the daddy (it is, he isn't created however the word 'begotten' refers to their dating as Father and Son). The Holy Spirit is intending from the daddy. the daddy is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. there is no longer 3 Gods yet ONE God. Jesus is the Son of the daddy, and since the daddy is God, Jesus is the Son of God. that does no longer mean that Jesus is his very own Son, nor that the daddy is his very own Father. some human beings would desire to ask "How are the three human beings one God?" the easy answer is that no-one is familiar with, as to be attentive to the real dating between the persons of God, would be to be attentive to the suggestions of God. no person can no the suggestions of God, yet God himself. for this reason Jesus says: "no person is familiar with the Son different than the daddy, and no person is familiar with the daddy different than the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to bare him." (Matt. 11:27B)

Answer 5

Most of the questions are revolving around the Hebrew word: Shachah

Which means to stoop, crouch, pay reverence, bow down, to show obeisance to, or to worship.

The bible shows examples of obeisance. We can show obeisance to Kings, Priest, to God or to those who represent God.

2 Sa. 16:4 'And Ziba said, "I humbly beseech [prostrate myself]; let me find favour in your sight, O my lord, the king."'

2 Ch. 24:17 'Now after the death of Jehoiada came the princes of Judah and made obeisance to the king.'

The Jews wanted to make Jesus the king of the Jews but his destiny was to be king of the heavens. Either way, Jesus would be made into a king so it was appropriate to prostrate to him. The difference in obeisance to worship is simple and outlined at:

Ex. 34:14 'for you shall not worship any other god, for the Lord whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.'

During an argument Jesus and the fallen Angel Satan had, Jesus simply said “It is Jehovah God you must worship”.

John 5:18 - The Jews were trying to find a reason to kill him by accusing Jesus of being God.

"Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him"

Jesus words corrected them saying he was not God but God's Son. A being not capable of anything unless his father teaches him.

"the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless {it is} something He sees the Father doing"

Answer 6

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