How can you trust a God like this?

Question

One who created sin to punishing his creation for not obeying him, then decided that was too harsh and sent his son to die for the sins he created, then still requires that we believe in him and his son after thousands of years of no appearance, or we will still be further punished for the sin he gave us by eternal torture -- all while knowing everything in advance in so much as expecting and knowing what we would do but still allowing it to happen.

How can you love and trust a god like this? Nevermind believe in him....

No, Lorenzo, this is not just occurring to me now.

Doug, you just said the same thing as I said, only you tried to make it sound okay. I don't need further explaining, you need to understand that we see the same thing, you just make excuses for it.

Yes, Morgaine, if the options were : send me to earth so I can be punished for Adams sin and possibly burn for it, or stay here is party heaven -- I'd choose party heaven. However, it doesn't exist to begin with so that point is only for entertainment and, to me, irrelevant.

Ed H - So god gave man the power to create such a huge thing as sin? He created everything else, in your mind, but let Adam create this horrible thing? Even before he created Adam he must have know Adam would do this, no? So why create him to choose sin and doom us all? That's the kind of god you believe in?

Answer 1

I can't, personally. I never could. Through all the years of Catholic School and church, I was indoctrinated enough to be filled with guilt and fear, enough to believe some of it... but I could never bring myself to love and trust such a fake, cruel god - especially when they told me I had to love him before everyone and everything else. I didn't know this god, and quite frankly, I didn't know that I'd want to know him even if he did exist.

Answer 2

Sounds like you don't have a personal relationship with God,, If you did you would understand what the Bible is teaching you.God did not create Sin,,, Man Created sin when he turns away from God..,, And no God still did not create it because He created man. Yes you will be punished for your sin if you do not turn to God,, That is what happened to those in the Bible that everyone like to use as an example of how God kills,,,He gives you chance after chance to turn to Him and when you refuse and continue to live in Sin you will be punished.. Yes God knows all before you do and we do what we want because He gave us free will,, You have a conciseness of what is happening in your life so you know wrong from right,, Everyone has a choice to believe in and follow Christ,, You know what the out come will be if you refuse Christ,, Why would anyone want to burn in Hell if they didn't have too ??

Answer 3

i don't trust anything that claims to have created the universe.
except Larri T. S.
cause He is joking about the creation of the Universe which for all intense purposes is made up of planets and STARS. So each one is
planet
and
STAR.

within STAR is I \ TAD S. ie short for I larri TODD(pronounced TA-D) Stevenson..
so in that way I l TAD S created the word STAR

eIn=one (german)
tad=Todd

eIn tad
created the word
planet (when you re-arrange the letters)

in that way you can say

larri Todd Stevenson
created the
planet and STAR.
thus the creation of the universe by larri Todd Stevenson.

and since larri's rist is IIII I sealed together which could be described as IVI sealed together which is equal to M, we can see why God was called the Lamb that was SLAIN. SLAIN=SiL A I IV (I IV=I IIII, IIII I turned over) And if larri was born on 9h(a 9 I7) then you see why the bible(Good News version) says God is the One in the light. note within the word light is "I i gh Li+" and gh is symbolic of 9 I7.

so prophesy buffs can see how my personal papers(ID's) and looks could be the person the words of the english bible describes, despite what Jehovah's witnesses say about this writing having nothing to do with the bible.

And TODD as the Son of the times new roman font LORD'S GODDESS, does make biological sense because TODD comes from within both, just like in real life.

If
DI= IIII I (visually) then

DIO
DIEU
DIOS
DEUS

make sense cause reading between the lines you see:
O=.n u
E=[iL(pronounced seal)
S=S\\(pronounced seal, the \ is from the top of the tnr font S)
.=o

thus the foreign language GOD's shows

DIO=IIII I .(a description of TODD's arm)
DIEU=IIII I [iL U
DIOS=IIII I . S\\
DEUS=IIII I = U S\\

German times new roman font GOTT=CuT nuT iT
Chinese tnr font SHANGDI=S\\ HAN CuT IIII I

but of course even the JEWS were told
God is forever known as the I AM
note
I AM=i am
larri (cut and sealed together)=i am
I AM=I AIVI sealed together

So perhaps Jesus and Jehovah are beasts that wanted to be worshipped and claimed fantastic claims, like eternal salvation and magical re-surrection powers, but the true God who is the One(1), the beginning(A), and the end(Z) is obviously Stevens.n(Stevenson) because what do
Stevens.n, 1, A, Z
have in comman?
note the S of Stevens.n=e+e(upside down)

all four are "a form of .I7 mixed up and sealed together" because I7=seventeen.

So remember it was Israel and Jerusalam that gave you Jehovah or Yhwh, and Jesus, not the One true God described by some of the biblical writters.

Answer 4

Sin wasn't created by God as punishment.

The punishment God gave man for sin was a sentance of toiling the Earth (working) for men and childbirth for women.

Sin ws introduced into mankind by one man (Adam). That sin was passed on to all generations by Adam.

Sorry if you have been misinformed somewhere along the way. Let me know if there is anything else you need clarified.

Answer 5

If you truly want to know....

God did not create sin. God created man with the freedom to choose. Sin is going against God's word. Man had a choice to follow God's word or not. God is wholly perfect and wholly good. He cannot be where there is sin because of this. God did not want to be separated from us forever and so He sent His son to atone for those sins committed by man. It's because He loves us that He doesn't force us to follow Him or love Him. But, He wants us to know and love Him the same as a father wants a son to know and love him, but doesn't say "You must love me." God has given us a second chance through His son Jesus because He loves us and doesn't want us to be in eternal torture.

It's up to each person to decide if they will truly seek to know God or just come up with excuses not to.

Just as cold is the absence of heat, evil is the absence of good. God did not create sin, man chose to commit it.

Answer 6

Created sin? Sin is a rebellious desire to disobey God. And sin is not arbitrary - God's will is good and holy - so what he commands is for our own good and for the good of others around us.

The punishment of death is not arbitrary either. The soul that sins must die - they may not be allowed to continue forever bringing pain to other creatures - what kind of justice would that be? The same people that complain that God allows suffering complain that God quarantines people who insist on causing suffering in hell so that they can no longer hurt others forever...

As far as requiring us to believe in Jesus... if you can make it into heaven on your own merits, you are not required to accept Jesus's sacrifice as payment for your sins. But if you, like me, know that you will not be found innocent when you stand before the judgment seat of God, you will be grateful for the lifeline that Jesus is throwing you here...

As far as knowing what would happen before it happened... would you rather not exist? Would you rather that no one ever existed?

This world may not be the best, but it is the best way to the best possible world - a kingdom of children of God who have willingly chosen to forsake disobedience and love and serve and enjoy God forever...

Answer 7

He did not create sin. It was a free choice by man. Then came the mercy of God's son. His Son is actually God, so it was not cruel. God went through the pain himself to redeem.

Answer 8

If you are hypnotized by the outward man and his "vision," that is what you see. The outward man can't see beyond the focal point of his error of sense. To make sense of this, look to the man God created, and not the one that lies.

Answer 9

You can believe what ever you want...I personally love God with all my heart and he loves you too regartless of your comments. He as been so good to me, and I dont question God, maybe that's why He has blessed me in many ways.

Answer 10

You're right, I can't and don't believe or trust in such a God. Worth reading: http://www.christcathedral.org/sermons/sermon_05_29_05.html