1.) Did absolutely nothing create the universe or does something exist eternally?
2.) If absolutely nothing created the universe---> Do you not believe science?
The 1st law of thermodynamics states- energy(matter) cannot be created nor destroyed
If you believe the universe is eternal, then how could we arrive at the current time in history considering it would have taken an infinite amount of time to get to this point? If this doesn't make sense to you, picture yourself never having a beginning, is this possible in the dimension of time?
By the way this argument does not apply to God, because something has to exist that is eternal outside the dimension of time.
So by now you should logically come to the conclusion that the "Big Bang" could not have occured unless something outside of our universe caused it.
So what is this? If it is simply non-living matter, how did Cosmic Evolution- The evolution of time, space, and matter.
2007-11-05
07:33:13
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۞ JønaŦhan ۞
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Chemical Evoltuion- The evolution of higher elements from hydrogen
Stellear and Planetary Evolution. Origin of stars and planets
Organic Evolution- Origin of Life
Macro Evolution- Changing from 1 kind to another
all evolve from this big bang, when the 2nd law of thermodyanamics states everything tends towards choas and disorder?
Futhermore if evolution is true, why doesn't anybody send in proof of transitional forms, to Kent Hovind to get their $250,000 reward?
Evolution was developed for two reasons, to support Hinduism, and to destroy Christianity which will lead us to a NWO.
Atheist if you decide to believe Evolution that is your faith, and therefore you're just a Hindu in disguise.
2007-11-05
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update #1
1.) A lot of christians answered. See? They MUST impose their thinking on others.
2.) Who says the universe was created by nothing? I've never heard that.
3.) The 1st law of thermodynamics proves that your hierarchy is all wrong. Matter -- then god (only for you children who believe in it) -- and then the other things, whatever they are, in your hierarchy. You put god above matter. Can't be so.
4.) If you can imagine even one of the 11 dimensions suggested by string theory, then you can imagine time as we know it having no ends. I can't imagine them. Can you? That doesn't mean they don't exist, only that we haven't finished the science on them. Since science is invariably provable, I would prefer to wait for the real answer rather than get it from the invisible guy who watches you even when you go to the bathroom.
5.) The only logic you used to get to the 'So by now you should. . .' sentence in your epistle is the logic that tells a 5 year old that if she has been good then Santa will bring her a Barbie.
6.) Your last sentence has me stumped. I don't know at all what you mean.
7.) You guys have had religion for what? 10,000 years? In the 250-300 years science has been around it has revealed a universe far beyond the puny imagination of racist ministers and pedophilic priests have been able to. If your puny religion can not be malleable enough to incorporate fact, then it is inadequate for people over the age of 10.
2007-11-05 07:53:58
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answered by Sarrafzedehkhoee 7
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1) There is no way to know one way ot the other. what existed before the primal singularity.
2) No one ever claimed that "nothing" created the universe. Atheists simply deny that there was any kind of intelligent entity behind its development and creation. Provide some actual evidence of one, and we'll talk.
Time itself had a beginning...time and space began at the first instant of the BB. Your comment here is merely sophistry.
"Chemical Evoltuion- The evolution of higher elements from hydrogen"
False. Elements are not alive, do not mate and have offspring, nor do they have predators that cull their population/
"Stellear and Planetary Evolution. Origin of stars and planets
Organic Evolution- Origin of Life"
Nonsense. Star and planet formation is a field of astronomy and physics. Neither are alive or subject to natural selection. The origin of life is a field of chemestry called "abiogenesis", which once again has nothing whatsoever to do with the theory of evolution.
"Macro Evolution- Changing from 1 kind to another "
No such thing as "macro-evolution". What you claim is "macro-evolution" is the result of many, many adaptations and mutations that have survived in a population over time until the new population is unable to breed with the original.
"all evolve from this big bang, when the 2nd law of thermodyanamics states everything tends towards choas and disorder?"
Nothing "evolved" from the Big Bang. If you want to know about what the second law of thermodynamics actually SAYS, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw9AoQ38pVU
"Futhermore if evolution is true, why doesn't anybody send in proof of transitional forms, to Kent Hovind to get their $250,000 reward?"
Because 1: Hovind never had $250,000, and 2) Hovind worded his challenge so that it was impossible to meet it.
"Evolution was developed for two reasons, to support Hinduism, and to destroy Christianity which will lead us to a NWO."
Conspracist bullshit.
"Atheist if you decide to believe Evolution that is your faith, and therefore you're just a Hindu in disguise."
You can't possibly be for real. Evolution is not a religion, or a philosiphy. It is a description of a process by which life forms change over time. Period.
2007-11-05 07:52:18
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answered by Scott M 7
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OMG, there's that One World Order again... We can't even get Congress to work well together, how could we get all the governments in the world to work together?
I know you think you are very smart because you are familiar with the laws of thermodynamics and logical argument (or at least think you are). In one fell swoop you claim that both the Big Bang theory and (oh, coincidentally...) evolution are false.
This time we have virtually all the scientists in the world conspiring and lying in order to spread Hinduism. Doesn't that sound paranoid, even to you?
To actually answer your question, no reputable scientist has ever claimed that the universe came from "nothing" or that they even know what existed before the Big Bang, or how or why the Big Bang occurred. Actually, the phrase "before the Big Bang" doesn't even make sense because time did not exist in the singularity.
So neither your first or second question has an answer because they are based on false premises. This is called a "straw-man" argument, wherein if one can't attack the theory or supposition, they instead make false claims about what they are attacking and then attack those false claims.
2007-11-05 07:50:15
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answered by Don P 5
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There are some interesting theories on the beginning of the universe. According to what we know, it might very well be possible for our universe to be created from another universe. The 1st law of thermodynamics doesn't relate to quantum level physics. Also, time is simply the 4th dimension, meaning it is possible that time started as soon as the universe was created, thus meaning stuff happened before the beginning of time, or the universe can be eternal, but time isn't.
We have very little science on this subject, be we are learning more and more. It should be noted that none of the evidence points to there being a God that created the universe.
Edit: and now that I see you have no idea what the 2nd law of thermodynamics is, I realize all of this is lost on you.
2007-11-05 07:39:57
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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"Evolution was developed for two reasons, to support Hinduism, and to destroy Christianity which will lead us to a NWO."
"Atheist if you decide to believe Evolution that is your faith, and therefore you're just a Hindu in disguise."
Your logic is grossly askewed as none of this is even minutely true. Matter is destroyed at a constant rate, at which point it is re-converted into energy. Where does this energy go? Not necessarily anywhere as much of it is massless.
Your rant makes absolutely no sense at all.
2007-11-05 07:48:04
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answered by Shawn B 7
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Universe - Universe = void (no dimensions, no physical laws, no cause and effect, nothing restricting or preventing the spontaneous creation of a universe. Nothing to infringe on the concept of infinite probability)
Laws of thermodynamics are a manifestation of this universes existance. Pre-universe they can't be known to apply. They kind of require dimensions, matter, energy....all the stuff that happens after the damn thing is already here....
2007-11-05 07:39:29
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answered by Rafael 4
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No, you fool. How dare you quote laws of thermodynamics to back up your absurd beliefs. That is utterly ridiculous, irrational and uncivilized. The question you ask regarding what made everything is a pretty freakin' big question. We can't answer it yet though we can hypothesize based on the evidence that we have. Your beliefs are without anything resembling proof, evidence or even a coherent train of thought. I adamantly refuse to accept your laughable allegations that some magical, invisible, all powerful being simply brought everything into existence by saying, "Let there be a universe."
2007-11-05 07:41:23
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answered by Anonymous
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1. You must be talking about matter. The universe was created in the Big Bang. Which does not state that matter was created, merely that it expanded. In which case, I don't know how and if matter first formed and neither do you. But I'm honest enough to say I don't know.
2. I do believe in science and I just explained the best theory for the creation of our universe. Your question is senseless.
2007-11-05 07:37:48
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answered by Anonymous
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I will tell you how mass and energy are thought to have formed because most people do not know.
As most people are aware total mass/energy are thought to be conserved.
However most people do not know Gravitational potential energy is negative.
Rapid inflation results in large amounts of both normal mass/energy and gravitational potential energy which are thought to exactly balance each other.
Most of mass/energy you observe today formed in the first few milliseconds after the big bang as a direct result of the extremely rapid inflation which produces normal energy balanced with gravitational potential energy summing up to zero.
2007-11-05 07:40:10
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answered by Anonymous
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You have obviously given this a lot of thought...
Can I give you a little constructive criticism?
You're efforts might be better spent on other endeavors. You seem to, how shall I say, be going off the 'deep end' a bit.
I genuinely don't mean to denigrate you - you are absolutely entitled to your opinions, but... you're obsessing and it comes across as a rant.
Best of luck.
2007-11-05 07:42:16
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answered by Bye for now... 5
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