Why do evolutionist still use Haeckel's fake chart to explain evolution?

Question

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/textbook-fraud-original-haeckel-drawings-1974.gif

Haeckel confessed he made up those charts.

Answer 1

Can you tell us where evolutionists are still using them?

Or are you attacking straw men?

Answer 2

That chart has not been used in over century, and it was revealed to be a hoax by scientists.

What current textbooks use Haeckel's chart as evidence for evolution? I suspect there are none. If there are, please feel free to provide titles (and links through Amazon, if possible). I won't hold my breath. (Same goes for the guy who claims his teachers used them.)

Of course, I don't expect you to actually do any research for yourself, or bother to learn anything about the subject. After all, you rely on creationist sites to think for you; you've even tried to claim evolution deals with cosmology in another argument! How sad, that you have nothing better to do than parrot the rants of people whose faith is so fragile that they must attack anything that may encourage people to be educated.

I suspect you know that nobody uses that chart, or that you get your weak arguments from that highly-biased and untruthful site. "Thou shalt not bear false witness" sound familiar?

Answer 3

Most do not. Can you cite who is still using it so a better explanation can be given for the possible reasons? Perhaps the chart is in old textbooks in poor school districts unable to afford updated versions? You provide no reference whatsoever for this "question" to be properly answered.

Of course, on the flip-side, why do Creationists continue to point to things like the Grand Canyon, petrified forests, etc. to try and disprove evolution, when such claims have been very thoroughly debunked?

Answer 4

I've seen that chart before, but only on a site that was saying it was fake. I seen plenty of scientific sites supporting evolution, but I've never seen that chart used to explain it. So it doesn't seem to be widely used.

No need to use it, anyway. There's masses of other evidence strongly supporting evolution.

Answer 5

They don't.

They haven't for more than a hundred years.

Quite frankly, anyone who tells you that scientists use Haeckel's charts is either working with scientific material more one hundred years old, or is flat-out lying to you.

Either way, it doesn't speak well for their credibility.

UPDATE:

To mrglass_08 below:

Oh my.

If that is true, then it certainly helps explain the abyssmal understanding of evolution I see on these (and other) boards from American posters.

Even those Americans who support evolution are often horrifically misinformed, or have very flawed understandings of how evolution works.

Basically, your education system seems to plummeting down a very dark hole. I hope you guys can do something about it before you suck the rest of the Western world into your theocratic dark age.

Answer 6

To the people that say they are not used anymore, you should talk to my biology teacher that I had in high school and then the one I had in college. The lie is forced down children's throats and they have no choice but to be indoctrinated into the idea that it is correct. Oh wait that sounds a lot like what non Christians accuse Christians of trying to do. Kind of ironic that they can say that it is wrong for one group to indoctrinate children but the one they agree with is just fine when they do it.

To the person who wants what book it was, this was several years ago and I honestly have no idea which book was used. I do know they changed textbooks a few years after I left by the time my brother and sister went through. It does not change the fact that when I went through the subject was treated as the end all be all fact and when I said wait a minute I was given detention for insubordination. I also went to a large suburban high school that has won numerous awards for educational quality and is nationally ranked as one of the best public schools in America.

Answer 7

I've had two dozen Biology classes, and I've never heard of Haeckel

Answer 8

That is just an embryology chart. But since you brought it up, comparative embryology does show the relationships of differing species. Did you know that at some point in the womb we were all covered in fur? A litle throwback to our ape-like ancestors.

Edit: Slap my forehead. Yes, that is fake. But Yes, comparative embryology still show similarities.

Answer 9

I haven't seen that before

if you were genuinely interested in evolution you'd ask your question in the science section

to ask in R & S makes you a deceitful coward

Answer 10

They do not.


Care to cite the current text book that uses this chart?

If you can not, then you are making false accusations. That is libel. Is not lying a sin in Christianity?

Answer 11

News to me, Ive never even heard of this so-called fake chart, let alone use it to explain evolution. I guess you know more about me than I do. I guess you're right up there with Miss Cleo.