Do you believe homosexuals go to heaven?

Question

Everyone is a sinner. Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. The bible says we should confess with out mouths that Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart that he died for our sins. Only answer this question - if you are a true christian, etc. someone who has studied the bible. He obviously forbids the act in the bible including everything else. The bible says if we believe in Jesus we shall never perish but then other passages say that the liars, sexually immoral will not make it to heaven..The bible is pretty confusing although I have not read it in its entirety. Basically if homosexuals including EVERYONE ELSE all the sinners in teh world, if you believe and try to repent your ways what do you think happens?

Answer 1

If they accept Jesus and repent, then of course.

Answer 2

In Leviticus, it says that two men together is "an abomination" and seems to even indicate that they should be put to death. It is silent on their fate in the Afterlife, though.

However, it doesn't say anything about two women or group sex, so I'm a little confused on the isolation of this one activity; since it says "as a man lieth with a woman", maybe it only applies to married men, since homosexuals don't tend to lieth with women. Some do, but not typically. Still, I'm not sure how two married women are given a pass, but that seems okay.

On another note, Leviticus also says one shouldn't eat pork or cheeseburgers, but I don't hear the christians calling for those to be outlawed.

Most of all, the Bible doesn't talk a lot about Heaven prior to the teachings of Jesus that come later. I'm not convinced that the Bible is that clear on there even being an afterlife.

All things considered, I think they have the same chance that the rest of us have, which I think is zero, but it would be the same anyway.

Answer 3

"He obviously condemns the act" .... give me a break.

First, I'm not a Christian, but I've read the Bible many times. What I see is that translators forbid the act.

Please, and I'll keep asking this again until I get a valid response, show me one place in ORIGINAL GREEK OR HEBREW ... not in an English TRANSLATION, where it explicitly states that a man shall not have sex with a man.

The Bible is quite clear about other sexual relations.

I'm not talking about the "man shall not lie with mankind as with womankind". That is not unambiguous. We don't have good cultural understanding, and it could simply mean that a man shouldn't treat another man as a woman in that situation.

I'm looking for the unambiguous statement in the Bible that says a man shall not have sex with another man. If you can't find that, then your assertions are simply that ... assertions. It is Isegesis, not Exegesis.

All the time I hear ersatz Christian scholars saying "You KNOW what this means". That is not scholarship. That is promoting a view and casting present opinion on an ancient text.

What does the Bible say explicitly? If you can't show it explicitly, you've got no argument.

Answer 4

True it says we are all sinners but it also says saved by grace. We all have the ability to sin in our flesh but that is when The Holy Spirit starts to convict you about what you know to be right in God. There is difference between sinning and living in sin. Living in sin is you are practicing this sin though you may know the truth. Once you accept Jesus as your personal saviour what he says is the final word on any situtation, sexual sin is a sin we committ not only with our spirit but with our bodies. Only God knows why He created male and female to be with each other and not male and male and female and female but He did and that should settle it, He knows better than we do we are just the creation put here for a time to be set apart and to do the will of The Father. If a sinner repents, accepts Jesus as his personal saviour and turns from those ways yes he is forgiven.

Answer 5

May bash a little.

If God created all of us , this would include gays. Could say the same as if divorce is against the Bible why did Adam have 3 wives, or Adam having sex with animals.

Try getting your hands on a not so modified Bible. Todays bible is wayyyyy different then the one that was actually written. Supposed to be the same rules, but since don't remember God or Jesus coming back and making changes.Why has the Bible been changed.

I know updated to modern times, but that there is a sin then. Heck Satan was cast out of heaven for a lesser offense then that.

Answer 6

What is the ultimate sin that cannot be forgiven? Some believe it is suicide but I've consulted with pastors and priests who no longer believe this or preach that. There is scripture in the New Testament that says blaspheming against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. This passage perplexes me because of all the sins one could commit, I'm not sure why this would be the one that is unforgivable. We really don't know a lot about the Holy Spirit so I'm not sure why we would get so mad at Him/Her/It as to curse it and then get sent to Hell for it.

The bible is a collection of works written by many different people over centuries. Many written works were considered for inclusion in the bible, but ultimately what we have is what human beings decided to assemble together, based on consistency with what the ruling religious mentality was in that day. While the Bible says, "Every Word of God is Pure", I myself wonder sometimes if this was truly God writing on those pages or perhaps a mere mortal who was expousing their own personal convictions and claiming they were straight from God. When someone today tries to convince me that they know the mind of God better than I do, I have a tendancy to want to challenge that claim. Who amongst us truly DOES know the mind of God unless you've been there and are a saint on this earth, ordained by God Himself/Herself?

If you read the philosophy of 19th century German philospher Friedrich Nietzche, his theory was that the idea of Jesus being God on this earth was the Jews way of achieving SOME kind of superiority over the Romans -- albeit if only theological superiority -- since the Jews lived in an occupied nation that could not defeat the Romans militarily. So OF COURSE the hero of the Jews would originate from a peasant family, coming in peace and love versus violence and military might because the Jews didn't have anyone who could beat the Romans at their own game. So they went cerebral and beat them morally.

I don't recommend that you read a lot of Nietzche if you are a God loving Christian because it might mess you up a bit. But Nietzche's theories will make you think and it is a good thing to challenge your own convictions as you seek out your own ultimate truth.

I don't believe that homosexuals will be barred from Heaven and I do believe in a merciful God. Because homosexuals cannot produce offspring on their own (without medical intervention), I personally don't believe it is a totally natural way to be, but I understand how all human life goes through various stages in the womb where gender is not immediately determined until a particular point, and so on that basis, we are a mixture of hormones, male and female. So I can understand how some might prefer their own gender over the opposite and just have a natural inclination that way. I don't think God will condemn these people for acting on the way they feel inside.

On the other hand, if Heaven ends up being another re-run of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and we all have to suffer through hordes of gays running through Heaven, trying to redecorate everything in sight, telling the rest of us how "FABULOUS!" this is going to look when they're finished, then I think I'm gonna go hang out in another galaxy and take a few straight angels with me, cause we're not gonna stay there, Dude. "EXIT ONLY!" back there. Capish?

Answer 7

definite, it particularly is extremely sparkling that lively homosexuals or heterosexual won't pass to heaven. easily it particularly is not with the aid of fact of who they're or what they do, that is with the aid of fact there is no heaven to pass to. in spite of the indisputable fact that, the Christian concept is fairly murky as there is robust Biblical claims that sin is forgiven via Jesus' "sacrifice" yet there is likewise indication that persisted, unrepentant sin isn't. Then there is the sturdy indication that no sin is any worse, or quite all sin is only as undesirable, as different sins. this suggests that a individual who particularly would not have a repentant coronary heart approximately little white lies is interior the comparable state as a individual who commits a homicide or divorces their better half and being a gay isn't any worse or greater effective than the two. From a Biblical point of view it particularly is stupid to concentration on homosexuality on a similar time as ignoring the different greater common sin (mendacity, coveting, divorce, lust, greed, and so on..).

Answer 8

thIS IS A TOUGH ONE. Not that the sinner will go to hell, BUT, if they are trying to change. Read Romans 1 :21 -27 . It will tell you exactly what is wrong with this. The whole chapter is interesting. We are ALL sinners but if we accept then we receive the mercy of God and grace of God. We sin each and every day BUT we have Jesus to go to and ask forgiveness. This doesn't mean to live in a gay lifestyle and ask forgiveness every day. When you ask for forgiveness you must try to change the sin you are asking forgiveness for, You can't keep doing the same sin over and over and over and expect forgiveness. I hope this helps. If you were speaking of yourself I pray you will repent and turn to Jesus. He can take the desire away from you.

Answer 9

But No!;
I can answer as a good and Sanctimonious Christan reading the bible daily ;.

There is another heaven where the good gays who have helped each other go to.l; Having lived a good and sincere honest, godly life like the Catholic priests and the Bible thumpers go to.
I am not gay but I prefer this to the other.

There are different rooms and halls and all men go to one hall and the others to another.
The men gays and the women gays are not allowed to meet or see each other.
The food is dependent on whether the gay is a Hindu - no beef-; Buddhist-anything given-; moslem- no pig and products-; christian - anything goes.
In the gay heaven' things are run by the likes and dislikes and by the divisions of the human beings - but all are gays- and not like in the other heavens.

Answer 10

I believe that all of us regardless of sexual preference will have to believe, have faith, obey commandments, and participate in certain ordinances before we will be admitted into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus Christ taught that "in my father's house are many mansions...", so I believe there will be a place for everyone. I also believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, however, many who choose the homosexual lifestyle probably have many good attributes that perhaps I don't possess. Let God be the final judge; just live each day the best you can, loving and serving others.

Answer 11

I think you can apply that to anything we may consider a sin. If someone is predisposed to alcoholism for example, and becomes an alcoholic for several years, then cleans themselves up and repent, I believe that they'll be OK.

I think it all depends on where their heart is. Either way, it's really just between the sinner and the Lord in the end.