Do you believe God is self-evident?

Question

And this is why arguing is futile?

The same way we assume logical axioms, we must assume God exists, in order to be certain of anything else?

"It is only through trusting our own minds that we have come to know Nature herself. If Nature, when fully known, seems to teach us (that is, if the sciences teach us) that our own minds are chance arrangements of atoms, then the sciences themselves would be chance arrangements of atoms and we should have no reason for believing them.”
C.S. Lewis

Answer 1

I like how Ken Ham put it:

A young man approached me at a seminar and stated, ‘Well, I still believe in the big bang, and that we arrived here by chance random processes. I don’t believe in God.’ I answered him, ‘Well, then obviously your brain, and your thought processes, are also the product of randomness. So you don’t know whether it evolved the right way, or even what right would mean in that context. Young man, you don’t know if you’re making correct statements or even whether you’re asking me the right questions.’

The young man looked at me and blurted out, ‘What was that book you recommended?’ He finally realized that his belief undercut its own foundations —such ‘reasoning’ destroys the very basis for reason.

On another occasion, a man came to me after a seminar and said, ‘Actually, I’m an atheist. Because I don’t believe in God, I don’t believe in absolutes, so I recognize that I can’t even be sure of reality.’ I responded, ‘Then how do you know you’re really here making this statement?’ ‘Good point,’ he replied. ‘What point?’ I asked. The man looked at me, smiled, and said, ‘Maybe I should go home.’ I stated, ‘Maybe it won’t be there.’ ‘Good point,’ the man said. ‘What point?’ I replied.

This man certainly got the message. If there is no God, ultimately, philosophically, how can one talk about reality? How can one even rationally believe that there is such a thing as truth, let alone decide what it is?

Answer 2

No, gods are anything but evident.

Chance and Gods form a false dichotomy logical fallacy. I believe nature is the result of necessary mathematics. Not Gods or chance.

Assuming your conclusion is another logical fallacy.

I am constantly amazed by the inability of Christians to reason logically.

Answer 3

God is a spiritual being that you sense through intuition. That is the way you know, that the spiritual realm exists. If you don't have those senses developed, or refuse to use them, or to recognized their imput as real. then you will have trouble believing in God or the spiritual. You can train these intuitive senses, though meditation/prayer, mind-body exercises, a healthy diet, not over indulging, and reading or hearing thing that inspire.

Answer 4

Saying that God is properly basic is fine for the believer, but obviously not for the atheist.

Answer 5

Yes, no one will have the excuse that they could not readily discern there is a God who created all.

If they use the word 'meaning' then they automatically submit to the fact that their is a 'purposer', they then must admit this entity which enacts purpose is God, and they're done. No matter how much they argue, they will be silenced, and bowed down in submission to God in the end.

Answer 6

there is no real proof either way even though im a believer because he answers my prayers and the complex universe

Answer 7

We must assume nothing of the sort.

Answer 8

Not in the least.