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it dosent mention a pope in the bible nor does jesus ever mention of electing an official to speak for the people. isnt that jesus' job, i mean thats why he needed to shed his blood, for us. now the whole pope thing? whats up with that?

2007-11-05 02:14:39 · 16 answers · asked by ersan b 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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some how the catholics turned the term around and up side down...

Peter, "the rock"....rock is strength/solid/witness...

in the same way the ten commandments are written in "stone", forever/ solid/strength....

the same way that the uncut stones of the sacrificial alter where (rock) on which to build a sacrifice...

it was tradition to place a memory stone/rock and speak words of remembrance....

Peter was to be all these things, as where the disciples, they were living memory stones to spread the word of God...


I never have been able to comprehend how they turned that idea into the pope, and all that other stuff....

2007-11-05 02:30:47 · answer #1 · answered by coffee_pot12 7 · 1 3

45 AD, Peter went to Rome and from there lead the Catholic Church. As of today, there have been 263 Popes in direct succession to Peter. The position of Pope was established by Christ and the office has been maintained in an apostolic manner since the time of Christ

But where is the word "pope" in the Bible? Well, where is the word "father,"because that's what "Pope" means ("pope" means "papa") . But you won't find the English word "pope" there any more than you'd find the word "Trinity." The reality, though, is there, in Peter, from the very beginning. The ecclesiastical offices of Bishops (episkopos), elders (presbyteros, from which is derived the word "priest"), and deacons (diakonos) were already in place in the New Testament (Acts 20:28, Philippians 1:1, Acts 1:20, 20:28, Philippians 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:1-2, Titus 1:7, 1 Peter 2:25, Acts 15:2-6, 21:18, Hebrews 11:2, 1 Peter 5:1, 1 Timothy 5:17). The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, is simply the successor of Peter, who was the first Bishop of Rome and head of the earthly Church.

2007-11-05 02:36:52 · answer #2 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 6 0

In addition to the Book of Matthew mentioned above (Upon this rock) please refer to Acts chapter 15. Paul and Barnabas had a question, could Gentiles be followers of Jesus Christ or did they need to become Jews first? Paul and Barnabas went to confer with the apostles and disciples. Peter acted as spokesman for the group stating that Gentiles did not need to convert to Judaism first. The Catholic church considers this as evidence of Peter's authority over the apostles and disciples.

BTW there is no rule against the Pope being married. It has not happened in roughly one thousand years, but it is possible.

2007-11-05 02:42:14 · answer #3 · answered by Adoptive Father 6 · 2 0

By Whom??? The word "Pope" means "Papa" and was attached to All the Early Western Bishops. In about 500AD it was restricted to the Bishop of Rome. In common use it simply meant "Universal Bishop". The catholic list of Papas includes Bishops from Rome from the 1st. centure on, but for 500 years the Bishops of Rome WERE NOT PAPAS! The idea that a Papa should have Authority over the Whole Church was a slow growth, bitterly contested at every step & has Never at Any Time, been Universally Recognized. The catholic Tradition that Peter was the first Papa, is Fiction, pure & simple! There is No Scriptural or Historical Evidence that Peter was ever in Rome, much less a Bishop, and he never claimed such Authority as his succesors do, rather he issues a Warning about abuse of leaders powers in 1 Peter 5:3. Some early Bishops were: Linus (67-79 AD), Clerus (79-91 AD) and Clement (91-100 AD) who wrote a letter to the church at Corinth in the name of the church, Not under his own name OR the Authority of a Papa. The First Real Papa is generally considered to be Gregory I (590-604 AD) who may be the the only Rightous Papa to ever serve! All told the Papacy is & has been a Wicked & Evil Power Base of Greed & Arrogance. For more info, pick up a copy of Haley's Bible Handbook which has a very detailed History in it. John

2007-11-05 02:55:20 · answer #4 · answered by moosemose 5 · 0 4

The ancient Christian Churches, Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Anglican Communion, consider Simon Peter a saint and associate him with the foundation of the Church in Rome, even if they differ on the significance of this and of the Pope in present-day Christianity.

Matt.16:18-19: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

The name "Peter" (Πέτρος in Greek) translates as rock. The "keys of the kingdom of heaven" that Jesus grants Peter are an indication of the papacy not as a personal honour (i.e. granted to Peter alone) but as an office with clear succession. This occurs several times in similar fashion in the Old Testament.

2007-11-05 02:27:59 · answer #5 · answered by ☼ɣɐʃʃɜƾ ɰɐɽɨɲɜɽɨƾ♀ 5 · 4 2

it doesnt mention trinity monotheism or purgatory in the bible by name but all these things exist. do they not?

Jesus told peter that he was the rock on which he (jesus) would build his church. thus making peter the first pntiff, the rock on which christ built the one true church.

2007-11-05 02:39:09 · answer #6 · answered by Adam of the wired 7 · 4 0

John 21:15-17 states:

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Matthew 16:17-19 states:

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

The Pope’s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 880-882: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p4.htm#880

With love in Christ.

2007-11-07 15:45:19 · answer #7 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

The bible also doesn't mention the word pastor. So are all pastors non biblical? Or just a term that Christians have given to their leaders? Like the word Pope.

2007-11-05 02:18:45 · answer #8 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 6 3

The word "pope" is irrelevent... it is one of many job titles... just like "the guy in the oval office" isn't written in the US constitution, but nonetheless manages to be a term with an obvious meaning, so to is the word "pope" (which derives from the affectionate Latin "papa", which means the same thing in English.)

As to Jesus directing Peter to lead his flock? I'm sorry, but you are quite mistaken on that count. The bible very much does mention it.

"When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my lambs.”

A second time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.”

Jesus said to him, “Tend my sheep.”

He said to him the third time, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter felt hurt because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” And he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.”

Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep."

John 21:15-17

2007-11-05 02:35:47 · answer #9 · answered by evolver 6 · 8 1

Because the men who created catholicism wanted some way to justify setting up an authority figure so they took a few verses out of context and bam! Peter became the "first pope". He really wasn't though. Popes are unbiblical.

2007-11-05 02:20:44 · answer #10 · answered by Blue Eyed Christian 7 · 3 6

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