i had heard that jesus never did mention a thing about building churches or having anything like forgiving your sins to a priest, going to mass, or having a pope. Love thy neighbor as thy love thyself and have faith in God is the only things he mentiond that will get you to heaven. just want to see what people feel about this. if your athiest then this dosent count but all responses are gladly welcome!
2007-11-05
01:36:50
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pdg and l449 i like those answers, they asnwer the question very well. all other answers are very good too yet those stuck to the topic ,i felt.
2007-11-05
01:49:57 ·
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but the bible was written many years later by people who were wanderers in the desert and had those stories passed down, was it not?
2007-11-05
01:51:34 ·
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Well first of all, Jesus was not against attending church in an actual building.
Jesus Himself attended synagogue religiously his entire life.
As for the building of churches....
1. Jesus says, "I will build my 'Church' (not churches)." There is only one Church built upon one Rock with one teaching authority, not many different denominations, built upon various pastoral opinions and suggestions. (Matt 16:18)
2. Jesus gave the apostles binding and loosing authority. But this authority requires a visible Church because "binding and loosing" are visible acts. The Church cannot be invisible, or it cannot bind and loose. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18)
3. Jesus says there must only be one flock and one shepherd. This cannot mean many denominations and many pastors, all teaching different doctrines. Those outside the fold must be brought into the Church. (John 10:16)
4. The Church does not mean "invisible" unity, because Paul called it the body (not the soul) of Christ. Bodies are visible, and souls are invisible. (Eph. 1:22-23; 5:23-32; Col. 1:18,24 )
5. St. Paul refers to both the elders or priests ("presbyteroi") and the bishops ("episkopoi") of the Church. Both are ordained leaders within the hierarchical PHYSICAL structure of the Church. (Acts 20:17,28)
6. The Church is hierarchical and includes apostles, prophets, pastors, and teachers, all charged to build up the Church. The Church is not an invisible entity with an invisible foundation. (Eph 4:11)
All of these verses also serve as proof texts for the institution of the Seven Sacraments whereby the grace of God is channeled to the faithful. By the authority given to the apostles and their successors we receive the forgiveness of God.
Pax Vobiscum+
2007-11-05 01:42:34
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answered by Veritas 7
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The church is the people who make up the family of God. Christ established this church, His church, on the day of Pentecost. The New Testament church met in homes but there is no prohibition to a building. Eventually, church buildings were built for convenience.
I agree, the Bible doesn't mention a Pope. I find it interesting that Catholics refer to Peter as the first Pope but Paul wrote most of the New Testament and provided almost all of the information for growing churches. But since we seem to agree, I guess this is a mute point.
We disagree, however, on the love and faith only issue. That's only part of our prerequisites to salvation. Love and faith, while necessary, doesn't overcome our sin. The blood of Jesus is needed for that. The blood of Jesus is accessed through repentance and baptism. It seems to me those would be necessary steps as well.
2007-11-05 01:58:05
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answered by starfishltd 5
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the only with an historic 'path' from its beginnings of the early years of the Christianity to as we talk's is the Church that Christ built upon Peter (Matt sixteen:18). employing the Bible and the Early Church writings we detect writings that the perception interior the actual Presence of Christ interior the Eucharist to be believed from the very early years. the 1st writings on the actual Presence interior the Eucharist could be discovered interior the letters of Ignatius of Antioch written in c. one hundred ten advert...very almost 10 to fifteen years after John the Apostle died. Ignatius grew to become into taught by John himself and those letters (7 in all) at the instant are universal by maximum pupils (non-Christians and Christians alike) as genuine previous any lifelike doubt. this is merely yet one occasion. The Church Christ based often is the Church the place you do no longer discover any new middle ideals that did no longer have a beginning up at its foundation and which existed for the duration of Christian historic past (on condition that Christ promised that the gates of hell shall no longer be triumphant against His church). those hundreds of diverse church homes sprang from the comparable Christian source interior the path of the fake effect that throughout common terms by inner maximum interpretation can we detect the actual fact (thereby throwing out the Church's interpretation). those inner maximum interpretations had the end bring about generating a everyday volume of differing ideals and subsequently diverse denominations. maximum non-Catholic Christians overlook the verse that the defender and foundation of reality isn't the Bible however the Church (one million Tim 3:15) God Bless Robin
2016-10-03 09:36:05
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answered by kelcey 4
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What you are taught of course largely depends on your faith. I have been taught that because Jesus interceded for us when he chose to follow the will of God and be a sacrifice, we no longer needed to go through any other human being to ask God for our needs. We do need to include "in the name of Jesus" in our prayers as he is our carrier.
With verses like "Do not forsake yourself from the assembly" and "where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst" along with various references in the New Testament about Christ being the head of the church or bridegroom of the church, one would have to say that "church" was and is a "real" thing.
2007-11-05 01:56:17
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answered by ~~ BLESS ~ 1
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There were alot of churches already built. Jesus did encourage churches (like the Hebrews, the Corinthians, etc.) to remain fast and work together to help build the church up people wise and to send missionaries out. Good enough? Hope so.
2007-11-05 01:51:41
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answered by cindyunion 3
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You are correct, the basic of Christianity is to Love God and Love your neighbor; however, remember Jesus often taught in the Temple so I see no harm in a church..yes?
Also, remember Jesus chose a leader..yes???
A good church needs good leadership; it's true that Popes of the Middle ages were corrupt and evil but modern popes were fairly decent..yes?
2007-11-05 01:49:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus promised, "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.
Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today’s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.) Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing.
Jesus’ Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19–20). For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28). Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to "make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19). The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, "the Catholic Church," at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius’s time, which means it went all the way back to the time of the apostles.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Pillar.asp
2007-11-05 01:44:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus taught nothing about religion. Jesus never talked about a building fund, or the building of buildings. It's all a lie perpetuated by men to control other men. I believe in God and Jesus. But religion is not what Jesus taught. It is all a big lie and millions and millions of people make there way to church buildings every Sunday because it makes them feel like there supposed to. So for a little while they feel better, and on and on it goes. The phrase upon this rock I will build my church is not a building, sorry if you believe that. People will believe whatever they think will make them feel better. But it just ain't so.
2007-11-05 01:44:01
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answered by LDB449 5
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"The Church" refers to those who believe in Christ. Now just as you would not make your family live out in the rain, people who come to worship together need shelter. Still, a building is not necessarily a church anymore than a house is a home.
2007-11-05 01:51:59
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answered by twincrier 4
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That is a very good question..I do not believe so...but there is a verse that says, those who come together in my name shall surely see God...so I suppose an edifice of some sort is in order.
2007-11-05 01:43:56
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