Please advise, if no trinity Christians is not exist?

Question

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Honest question, and I am looking for a honest answer that

christians = trinity concept.
So if trinity concept fail to defend then
christians will merge with Judaism
else
logic will fail.

No need a copy from Bible please, just your thought.


peace

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djmantx,

when the foundation of the concept failed, then it goes back to the root, don't you thing so?


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Maranatha, you are taking down g-d to earth become material with an example of Cube.
So if the lenght missing then g-d change. You could do better then that...


peace

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Please noted that I don't like to give any thumbs down to those who answer my question.


I appreciate you who have spending your valuable time to answer it.


peace

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Hamoh10,

if you refering to Bible (backup) which never explicitly cited the trinitly concept, then the debate will not about the concept but the bible itself either accountable fact or just a something else.

Many people read bible (as you know it) but the point is how they understand the messages.


peace

Answer 1

What the SCRIPTURES say is the basis of my thoughts. These are the essence of what I believe, what I live in my day to day existence, It does take SCRIPTURE for an answer on this matter, no matter what any think this only validates that human beings can think. After all, didn't humanity get into this mess of false concepts by each group or sect forming a thought about who or what they wanted to believe?

"Christianity" means many things to many people. Once upon a time it was a name I thought I understood.
Over time through many deep readings of the SCRIPTURE, i came across way too many things that none of the religions I studied taught or lived as an example.
I decided to sit down and begin writing word for word exactly what YHWH said. Beginning at Genesis 1:1
I have not made it all the way through yet, yet I went far enough to understand so much more. For a long time I saw many people with these WWJD slogans, so my next venture was to study exactly what our Messiah did, YAHUSHUA did not live this concept of mad made religion, He lived, walked, and taught every word that proceeded from the mouth of YHWH.
This is our example. Go ahead and read this, if you seek answers. As for Judaism, well Christianity branched from many like teachings. YAHUSHUA, of Jewish descent, from the Line of David. why was HE at odds then so many times in the SCRIPTURES with the brood of vipers around HIM? Judaism, had taken on many man made traditions, YAHUSHUA stood in opposition of adding to or taking away from YHWH Hallowed LAW. Did YAHUSHUA create a new religion? No, YAHUSHUA lived the TORAH, HE accomplished this feat, fullfilling all righteousness. Being living examples of YAHUSHUA , emulating HIS walk , Worthy Is The Lamb of YHWH.

Most of the Christian world tells us that we worship a trinity.

When I speak of the Trinity, I refer to the belief that the one we worship is one "God" (Elohim), manifested in three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), all of which are co-equal in greatness

When going further into this subject with one who believes a trinity, they often like to explain away the contradictions with saying:

"It's just one of the great mysteries of the faith"

This belief is a mystery indeed. 3 is 1 yet 1 is all three yet all 3 are 1, but 1 is still all 3?

Much of the basis of this belief concerns the use of the title "God" (from the Hebrew word "Elohim")

The word "God" is the most overused word in trying to prove the Trinity doctrine.

I came to understand that this word "Elohim" (translated "God") has meanings other than 'deity'

Here are some examples where the word "Elohim" or "El" is found in the Hebrew, but it is not translated "God"



Exodus 21:6 - Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

In the above verse, it is translated "Judges"


Jonah 3:3 - So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of YAHWEH. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.

In the above verse, it is translated "Exceeding"


Proverbs 3:27 - Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it.

In this verse, it is translated "power"


Nehemiah 5:5 - Yet now our flesh is as the flesh of our brethren, our children as their children: and, lo, we bring into bondage our sons and our daughters to be servants, and some of our daughters are brought unto bondage already: neither is it in power of our hands; for other men have our lands and vineyards.

And in this verse, it is also translated "Power"
The context of these verses do not give support to the idea that "Elohim" means "God"

What this reveals is the the Hebrew word "Elohim" has a much broader use and meaning than the English word "God"

Therefore "God" isn't a particularly accurate translation of the Hebrew word "Elohim"

However, we could see where the concept of "Mighty" or "Mighty ones" would fit well with each of these verses. For this reason, I do not believe that "God" is an very accurate translation of the Hebrew word "Elohim".

There may not be a fully accurate translation.. but I think that may be the closest. Nevertheless, I prefer to retain "Elohim" since I know I cannot go wrong with that

When someone says "God" today, what generally comes to mind is "The Supreme being". But we can see that Hebrew "Elohim" has different shades of meaning

Some might say this is being 'too picky'. Why is this even important? According to the data I have, this word (in various verbal forms) is found 2606 times in the Masoretic text

In fact, 32% of all verses in the book of Deuteronomy contain this word. With such a common word, is it not very important that what is chosen to translate it is as accurate as possible?

Certainly. If "God" then is not the best translation of "elohim" then this is probably the most mistranslated word in all of scripture.

Has this mistranslation had any affect on doctrine? My answer would be "yes". Consider the common logic of those who espouse the trinity doctrine:

The Father is "God"

The Son is "God"

The Holy Spirit is "God"

There is only 1 "God"

Thus, we must have a 3 in 1 "God".

The logic continues that the Messiah could not be a lesser "god" or another "god", thus He must also be equal with the Father as "God" and a part of "God".

Similar logistics are used in the "oneness" doctrine

But let's examine this word and the trinity doctrine in light of other scripture

The truth is that their high trust in this word can be refuted if you understand that Elohim is a title that describes Yahweh just as the word "King" or "Master" describes Yahweh.

It is not a word that is exclusive to the Heavenly Father Yahweh

Or to the Messiah for that matter

The word "El" or "Elohim" is also used to describe men, angels and yes, Yahushua also.

Scripturally, it is certain that Father Yahweh is supreme and above all things. But all things, all power and authority have been "given" to Yahushua.

Father Yahweh is the giver of all life, the source of all things. From HIM all things flow. All life, all love, all Spirit

It is written ..



Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: YAHWEH is our Elohim, YAHWEH is one:

I believe in this scripture, Yahweh is definitely ONE. But was Yahweh making a doctrinal statement here?
What is the meaning of "One" in this verse?

In Hebrew, it is the word "Echad".

It is also found in this verse:



Genesis 2:24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

In this case, we see two becoming one
It is a plural unity nonetheless

This is true in a number of other scriptures:



Genesis 11:6 - And YAHWEH said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

Yahweh said that the people are "one" (Echad) even though there were many
Does this mean that Yahweh Himself is a plurality?

Not necessarily. It can also mean one as in a number, as this verse illustrates. They had "one" speech

So from what I see in the use of this word "echad", Deuteronomy 6:4 cannot be used to prove the trinity, oneness or other such doctrines

I do believe that Yahushua shed light on it, however:

When He was praying in the garden...



John 17:20 - Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

(That's us!)


John 17:21 - That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Yahushua prays that we may be one as Yahweh and Yahushua are one
He also prays that we may be "one" in them!

Can we be one as Yahweh and Yahushua are one?

Can we be one with them?

Yes

Does this mean we are all co-equal with the Father and His Messiah?

No, of course not

Father Yahweh is above all

This verse alone wipes out the trinity concept.

It is not one as in a 'number', but one in unity of thought and will and purpose.

When our way is Yahweh's way...we are one with Him. Does this mean that we are equal to Him?

Not even close

So oneness does not have to mean equality and it does not have to mean one as in a number.

There is no disunity within Him. There are no disagreements between Yahushua and Yahweh. They are one in purpose and in thought

And we can share that oneness with them, HalleluYah!

Now the very essence of the word "Father" is one that describes a giver of life.

Yahushua referred to Father Yahweh as such, as do we.

One should not ascribe the title "Father" to one who hasn't created them.

The very fact that Yahushua calls Him "Father" shows that His Father is His creator.

Yahushua said:



John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true Elohim, and Yahushua the Messiah, whom thou hast sent.

Yahushua called Him (Yahweh the Father) the only true Elohim.
In one sense this is true, for all "might/power" (the meaning of Elohim) proceeds from Him.

But others (who have might/power) can also be called "Elohim" as we have previously shown

Some might say that this scripture doesn't apply anymore because Yahushua speaking "before He was glorified" and/or "He is only speaking from His

Some might say that this scripture doesn't apply anymore because Yahushua speaking "before He was glorified" and/or "He is only speaking from His earthly state."

But this is human reasoning, not found in scripture

The Trinitarians especially like to say that Yahushua didn't really mean this as an eternal concept.

What Yahweh says thru Yahushua endures forever. They say that it was just for that time when He was on earth.

We need to be on the lookout for excuses to excuse away scripture! We need to beware of reasonings that disregard the words of our Master! What did Yahushua call His Father AFTER His resurrection and ascension? His co-equal?



Revelation 3:12 - "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My Elohim, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My Elohim and the name of the city of My Elohim, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My Elohim. And I will write on him My new name.

No, Father Yahweh is 4 times STILL His Elohim.
Father Yahweh is the Elohim (Mighty One) of Yahushua

What must trinitarians think? That Yahushua is His own Elohim?

It has not changed; Father Yahweh is still the Elohim of Yahushua and therefore greater than He, just as Yahushua said.



John 14:28 - Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

What has took place after Yahushua's resurrection is that Yahweh exalted Yahushua above all. Yahushua said it so plain:


John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:


John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


John 10:29 - My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

All things are "given" to Yahushua by the Father and Yahweh is greater than all.
I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this. Yahushua said it Himself!



Matthew 19:17 - And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, YAHWEH: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Even Yahushua had to recognize that any goodness He had...came from the Father.
Therefore, I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this.

In fact, Yahushua is worthy of praise, honor and yes.. "Worship".

In this I will elaborate later but for now let's consider the position of Yahushua after all things are completed.

After death is defeated and we are with Him. Will he be co-equal to the Father? Let's see:



1Corinthians 15:20 - But now is the Messiah risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.


1Corinthians 15:21 - For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.


1Corinthians 15:22 - For as in Adam all die, even so in the Messiah shall all be made alive.


1Corinthians 15:23 - But every man in his own order: the Messiah the firstfruits; afterward they that are the Messiah's at his coming.


1Corinthians 15:24 - Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to YAHWEH, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.


1Corinthians 15:25 - For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.


1Corinthians 15:26 - The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


1Corinthians 15:27 - For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

Who put all things under Yahushua? Who is this One who is "excepted"?
Who is excepted? The Father is excepted, who is greater than all.

He is the one who put all things under Yahushua because He is above all. He is the only one who could! Continuing..



1Corinthians 15:28 - And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that YAHWEH may be all in all.

So Yahushua will be subject to Father Yahweh in a future time..even as now. And this is the blessing of order.


1Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is the Messiah; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of the Messiah is YAHWEH.

Very clear, is it not?
Now let's look into this matter of worship

Some "dualists" say that one should not worship Yahushua.

Let me first say that I'm not a "dualist", nor do I believe in "oneness", "trinity" or any other self titled belief

For I find they all have flaws

I just believe in what all the scriptures have to say about the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

Some "Dualists" even say that if you do worship Yahushua, you are committing idolatry.

Let's examine this in light of scripture:



Matthew 28:16 - Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Yahushua had appointed them.


Matthew 28:17 - And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Yes, the disciples worshipped Yahushua. At least 11 times it is recorded as such. And Yahushua accepted such and did not forbid them. Why?
Let's look at what He said two verses later:



Matthew 28:18 - And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

All power is GIVEN to Yahushua in heaven and earth, HalleluYah!
Yahushua is WORTHY for He overcame the world and in Him there is LIFE and Salvation!

Now it is not unusual for one to "worship" somebody who represents the kingdom of Yahweh.

In fact, men worshipped David!

It is true, scripture says that men worshiped David and David said nothing.

Now, it is true that people didn't go to the temple to worship David

And it is true that they didn't worship David while in their homes, etc

But when coming in the presence of David, they did

David was the anointed of Yahweh. The word anointed is "Mashiach" or Messiah.

Now David was not Yahweh but he represented and was the authority over Yahweh's kingdom of Israel.



2Samuel 14:4 - And when the woman of Tekoah spake to the king, she fell on her face to the ground, and did obeisance, and said, Help, O king.


2Samuel 14:5 - And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, I am indeed a widow woman, and mine husband is dead.

Here, the word used for obeisance is also translated 'Worship' 99 other times in scripture
Even in Exodus 20 in the Ten Commandments we find this same original Hebrew word used.

The word simply means "to bow down"

Here is another place:



1Chronicles 29:20 - And David said to all the congregation, Now bless YAHWEH your Elohim. And all the congregation blessed YAHWEH Elohim of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped YAHWEH, and the king.

Now, before anyone gasps.. read this:


Revelation 3:9 - "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

Interesting, yes?
We will reign with Messiah, and be kings and priests (if we are accounted worthy)

Consider also the psalm:



Psalms 45:6 - Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

This is a psalm speaking of Yahushua the Messiah. It is quoted as such in the book of Hebrews:


Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O Elohim, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.

Notice that the Son is called "Elohim" here
Continuing..



Psalms 45:7 - Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore Elohim, thy Elohim, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Here again, even though the Messiah is called "Elohim"... Yahushua's Elohim is none other than Father Yahweh.
The verse clarifies the true Elohim. HIS (Yahushua's) Elohim..the Father

This is consistent with the verses we examined previously where Yahushua calls the Father His Elohim.



Psalms 45:8 - All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.

Now this is an allegory of Yahushua and His assembly


Psalms 45:9 - Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.


Psalms 45:10 - Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;

Now look closely at verse 11:


Psalms 45:11 - So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Master; and worship thou him.

This shows that it is acceptable to worship Yahushua; He is our Master and represents Yahweh and His kingdom.
There is no other like Him. He even shares the Father's omnipresence:



Matthew 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

But He clearly is in subjection to the Father and the Father is clearly His Elohim, His strength and His source
None of this means that we worship a trinity



Philippians 2:9 - Wherefore YAHWEH also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

Who is greater, one who has the authority to exalt or the one being exalted?


Philippians 2:10 - That at the name of Yahushua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;


Philippians 2:11 - And that every tongue should confess that Yahushua the Messiah is Master, to the glory of YAHWEH the Father.

If I read verse 11 correctly... If we lift up Yahushua, We are lifting up the Father...if we praise Yahushua , we are praising the Father..it is all to the glory of Yahweh the Father!


John 5:22 - For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


John 5:23 - That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Now let's look at John 10:


John 10:31 - Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.


John 10:32 - Yahushua answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?


John 10:33 - The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself Elohim.

Here is the accusation. Here would have been the opportunity for Yahushua to show them how he was co-equal to the Father.. a part of the trinity and "godhead"
But He did no such thing

What does Yahushua do? He does the exact same thing I have done in this study. He downplays the greatness of such a title!



John 10:34 - Yahushua answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are elohim?


John 10:35 - If he called them elohim, unto whom the word of YAHWEH came, and the scripture cannot be broken;


John 10:36 - Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of Elohim?

This is what Yahushua pointed out to them and so this is what I point out to others. Yahushua downplayed the 'Exclusivity' of this title and so I choose to do the same
Yahushua defended this claim with the scripture that refers to men as also "elohim'. This shows that they had a false concept of what "Elohim" means, just as do leaders of today.

There appears to be other misconceptions.. such as in the meaning of oneness and worship

How these words are used in various scriptures demonstrate their meaning. The scripture cannot be broken, as Yahushua said!



John 10:37 - If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.


John 10:38 - But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

The source of all life, Father YAHWEH...is IN Him. But Yahushua isn't equal to Him, neither then nor now. Yahushua has an Elohim just like we do. And it is Yahweh the Father


John 8:13 - The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.


John 8:14 - Yahushua answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.


John 8:15 - Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.


John 8:16 - And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.


John 8:17 - It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.


John 8:18 - I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

There we have two that bear witness
They aren't one 'person', else Yahushua would be playing a little trick on them and His defense would have been false



John 8:19 - Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Yahushua answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

So two bear witness. Now I ask, where is the Holy Spirit in all of this?
Shouldn't the Holy Spirit also bear witness if there are 3?

The Holy Spirit is simply the Spirit of Yahweh. It is His Spirit. The Spirit proceeds from Yahweh the Father.



John 15:26 - But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

The Spirit poured out on those in Acts 2 is simply the Spirit of Yahweh the Father.. Kepha/Peter said:


Acts 2:16 - But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;


Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith YAHWEH,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

The Holy Spirit is that Spirit that proceeds from the Father, no wonder it is Holy! It is simply Yahweh's Spirit.
So the Spirit comes from the Father ..

Yahushua also comes from the Father.



John 8:42 - Yahushua said unto them, If Elohim were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from Elohim; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

I think there is a pattern here?
ALL Things come from the Father!



1Corinthians 8:5 - For though there be that are called mighty ones, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be mighty ones many, and masters many,)


1Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but one Elohim, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Master Yahushua the Messiah, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Is there not a distinction here in the position of the Father compared to who the Son is?
The Father is the source of all things and He does all things through Yahushua the Messiah by His Spirit.

I'm not particularly fond of human analogies.. but consider this...

The Father is like the "generator", the Holy Spirit is like the "Electricity" and the Son is the wires, the Way to The Father.

And we? We are the light of the world, in Him

I pray that Yahweh's Spirit will dwell in us to reveal to us His ways and His truth.
Logic Failing, not a chance, YHWH Is Was and Ever Shall Be. What fails is the rhetoric of man made ideas we call beliefs.

May Yahweh bless you and have mercy on us all!

Answer 2

Well son??? If you were to sit down and really read ,yould know that there is NONE! According to the scripture, consider Jn 20:17;, Acts 2:32-33;, Rom1:1-4;, 8:11;,2 Cor1:3 and the rest of the salutations. Next to Jn 17 Move to Hebrews, Chp one;, attn vs 8-9;, 5:5-6;, then chp.10:5-7 Sorry an opinion is of NO worth, or truth in matters such as this because, of the NATURE of your post See, in this day one BETTER have the scripture to back up what is spoken. See, Sabellius started this with his teaching of Modalism in the year 200 A.D. Which Paul warned us of in 1 Tim.4:1-11 This is the foundation of my THOUGHT,,,,,,.peace also, to you.

Answer 3

Without the atonement no need to merge with judaism all have inherited death.
God is a righteous god that can not smply overlook sin.
It is the reason for Christ to come to the world to overcome temptation sin and death.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and the wages of sin is death.

Edit

Chrisitanity did come from Judaism, However Judaism is fufilled through Christ...Judaism teaches the coming of the Mesisiah and the attributes of the Messiah however Jews missed this truth it is impossible to unlearn or not know that which God has revealed.

Answer 4

Yes. One of Christianity's main tenet is the concept of a Triune God (Trinity). In essence, there is only one God but this one true God is composed of three distinct person, the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit. The word "Trinity" cannot be found in the Bible but the concept of such can be found throughout the Scriptures.

Answer 5

The question is a moot point as God DOES exist in 3 persons.

God the Father,
who dwells in unapproachable Light.

God the Son,
that intercedes on our behalf, and Paid the Price for our sins!

God the Holy Spirit,
that indwells the hearts of all true believers!

3 different & distinct persons, ONE GOD!

Ro 1:20 - For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

Such as the

Universe itself, Time+Space+matter (each unique and individual, none like the other, all three different) yet ONE UNIVERSE!

Or

How about a simplistic cube, Lenght, Width, Height (each measurement different & distinct) all 3 required to form
ONE CUBE!

etc, etc, etc....

Answer 6

God is one and only one and there is no God except God. So, God can't prescribe Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc. different religions for the same mankind. In reality God fixed a single religion for human and sent many many teachers(prophets) to teach human that religion.
Religion is a set of rules, regulations and orders to be obeyed so that human society becomes more civilized, more cultured and peaceful. All prophets preached the same religion. But it is sad for humanity that, some greedy and egoistic people corrupted the religion. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc. are following those corrupted, impure versions of religion. Intelligent, courageous, knowledgeable and logical people should find out the impurities and clean the religion for sake of humanity.

Answer 7

Not all denominations believe in the trinity. It depends on how YOU define the trinity. What would you consider it to be and thus how do you see it failing? Your question is like asking, "How can God be in the hearts of everyone in the world at once?" Then because our feeble human minds can't comprehend God's ability to be 3 embodiments and be everywhere, we say, "Because He's God."

Sorry, this is not something that anyone is going to be capable of wrapping their minds around comprehensively. If God is God, then science is what He makes it to be. It's a paradoxal question and it will go nowhere.

Answer 8

Well not all of the early christians believed in the Trinity either, that had to be agreed on by a committee at the Council of Nicea in 325. After that, orthodoxy was the trinity, and those who preached otherwise were labelled heretics, and they were tortured to death and their writings burned.

JW is a modern branch of christianity that doesn't believe in the trinity.

Answer 9

The Holy Trinity is a mystery.God the Father sent his Word (Jesus) to bring us truth,and his Spirit to make us holy.We worship the Father ,one God in three Persons, equal in majesty,undivided in splendour,yet one Lord,one God,ever to be adored in the Father's everlasting glory.

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Answer 10

true If the trinity was false everything stated as "Christian" would be questionable and more likely false. However since it hasn't been proven false...

Answer 11

Do not test your God. and those who try 2 shaken others faith and question God, i believe He'll deal with them. and don't ever make God to prove to you tat he's true or be ready to be rebuked by Him.