Does the presence of imperfections in the universe disprove the supposed perfection of its creator?

Question

God supposedly has freewill, and yet he does not make imperfect decisions. If humans are miniature images of God, our decisions should likewise be perfect. But the occupants of heaven, who presumably must have freewill to be happy, use that freewill to make imperfect decisions (Satan and his followers). Would humans who later transcend to heaven do differently? And if 2/3 of perfect beings who were originally in heaven betrayed God, how could heaven ever be sinless?

Answer 1

Man is created in the image of God not in man's perfection but in the fact that man is made with an eternal spirit.
God made man in his image making him first flesh and adding an eternal spirit and these are one living soul.
God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and these make up the whole of God.
Gen.1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

God gave man free will knowing man would sin.
God is total righteousness and can not agree with sin and therefore does not overlook man's sin.
The wages of sin is death.
God had a plan to save man from sin before he created man.
This plan was to come to this world as man lord Jesus Christ to overcome temptation as a man and remain sinless and to pay the penalty of sin for those who accept this atonement.
Those who love and seek the truth receve a gift from God called faith and through faith comes revelation.
These are by faith made new and in agreement with God's righteousness.
It is God's plan through the atonement to bring his creation to him in his righteousness through the atonement.

Answer 2

An image isn't the original.

In this case, the miniature images of God happen to be His children. We are here on this planet to learn and to grow. That is why our lives are filled with challenges, and sometimes pain. It is part of the plan.

We all have freewill, and it is obvious that we all make imperfect decisions at times. However, this doesn't mean that we have to continue making the same mistakes over and over again. The implication is that, over time, our decision making can become perfect.

I can see how the 1/3 who made war in heaven poses some problems. The answer is (and this is consistent with the Bible), that we all lived with God before we were born. We lived there as spirits. While there, a plan was presented that would give us the opportunity to have physical bodies, be tested, and become more like God. Two thirds of us were really excited.

1/3 wanted to modify the plan. Their idea was rejected, and they rebelled and were cast out. They will never have bodies of their own, and they can never return to God's presence.

With time and experience, those who have committed to keep God's commandments will develop the same character that He has. We will have lost all desire for sin long before we are allowed to return to His presence.

Answer 3

you have hit a personal nerve of my own.

perfection has many levels of definition and translators of the scriptures are the worst traitors to the truth.
while jesus is called perfect, he is also called blameless in the same sentence.

perfection can be obtained by simply seeing a error and correcting it.
being sinless is also another state of supposed perfection. Although one could be sinless, his/her perfection would not be complete until everything is without error. .
therefore the creation can be imperfect where the creator can be perfect in repentance or without blame.
however jesus is described as being 'faithful' which implies he will always work toward the perfection of faith and our repentance. He will forgive us as children who dont know how to walk yet.
The bible does describe the word of God like working on a thesis, where it has to be written 7 times and proofed before it could be given and pure and undefiled.
but there is much more to say on that topic

Answer 4

Well it’s a conundrum, isn't it? If God is imperfect, He isn't God, and therefore "God is imperfect" is a non-sequitur. If God exists, He is necessarily perfect, and the worlds He has created necessarily do reflect that perfection. The question is, can you perceive the universe the way God perceives it? You and I are like the tiny bug under the rug. All we see are loose threads and dark passages. God sees those, but He also sees the top of the rug, the beautiful pattern of His own artwork, rising to a level of genius impossible for tiny ones like us to comprehend. It is precisely His solution to the extraordinary problem of creating true moral agents like Himself with which to share a perfected eternity, which invites our supreme adoration of His love, justice, and wisdom.

Answer 5

Imperfections in the heat distribution of the universe neither prove nor disprove the existence of a god. That is not the job of science.
However these anomalies do tend to support the latest theories of cosmology.

Answer 6

the reality that something is imperfect is barely your opinion. God will possibly no longer share that opinion. As for people being imperfect it relatively is via our standards, and not necessairly God's bigger standards. there is too plenty approximately people and something of the universe we don't understand to even attempt a end of suitable or imperfect. God certanly has a rationalization for each thing. it extremely is in basic terms too elementary to settle for as actuality each thing we don't understand or do no longer understand the way it extremely works as being imperfect. God created guy in his photograph. we are no longer clones of God. there is likewise no theological or scientific evidence to decrease back up something your paragraph credited to Chad Docterman. How does he understand something suitable can no longer create something imperfect? This fact is mindless. logic dictates that if a author can no longer create something then this is not any longer suitable. So for a author to in basic terms have the skill to create "suitable beings" makes that author no longer suitable. a suitable author might have the skill to create something he needed, suitable or no longer. Docterman's fact makes the misunderstanding of a perception that through fact we've been created in clone of a suitable author then we could be suitable. he's definitely asserting that through fact people are no longer gods then there is not any God. I have not any thought who this Docterman man or woman is yet sounds to me like a man or woman making up psycobabble to justify his very own ideals he can no longer justify with info, evidence, logic or commom experience.

Answer 7

the situations you point out fit PERFECTLY in the Lords great plan! do i claim to know that plan? no! how does the creation understand the plan or thoughts of someone so far above it`s self as it`s creator?
again, where were you when the Lord created the universe by the breath of his spirit and set the planets in their place? who knows better, the creation or his creator?

Answer 8

My understand is that, on a scale of 1 to 10, God is a 3.2 in the category of perfection.

Answer 9

No. The world and its inhabitants were originally created perfect. Then sin entered in when Adam and Eve disobeyed.
Everything on the earth is now tainted by sin, especially man.

Answer 10

How dare you insult the Lord of all Creation by pointing out the fact that he screwed up in some places.

May the LORD of mercy smite thee with eternal hellfire!
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