I heard this claim on here. I have seen it made before. Often the Old Testament is quoted in the New and it is word for word. Can anyone show me where word for word the apocrypha is quoted in the NT?
2007-11-04
07:00:03
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jen - I want the exact quote in the NT and the apocrypha. Not just some NT verses. I have no desire to read the entire apocrypha in order to see if a verse is in it.
2007-11-04
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cristoiglesia - No I mean the apocrypha. There is no second canon.
2007-11-04
07:21:44 ·
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1 Enoch is quoted in the New Testament. Compare Jude 14-15 and 1 Enoch Chapter 2:
“Behold he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgement upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all of flesh for every thing which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him.” (1 Enoch, 2 Chapter)
“It was also about these that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, ‘See, the Lord is coming with ten thousand of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all, and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.’” (Jude 14-15, NRSV)
The Revised Standard Version actually credits Jude 14-15 to 1 Enoch. It's one of the few versions that do.
2007-11-04 07:10:44
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answered by Wolfeblayde 7
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Are you speaking of the Deuterocanonicals and said apocrypha instead? The Deuterocanonicals are the canonized books of the Christian Bible not contained in the Pharisaical and Protestant Bibles. Apocrypha books are those that never became Canon like the books banned by Pope St. Gelasius.
I think that you are a bit confused here. Jesus and the apostles when quoting the Old Testament quoted from the Greek/Essene Canon called the Septuagint and not from the Pharisaical Canon. I pray this helps your confusion.
In Christ
Fr. Joseph
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During Jesus' ministry and life there were at least four OT
Canons of Scripture in use by the Jews. There was no apocrypha as these were produced primarily by the Gnostics and other heretical sects. The Pharisaical Canon adopted by the Protestants in the last few hundred years was approved by the Jewish Council of Jamnia to slow the growth of the Christian religion. I pray this helps.
2007-11-04 07:13:21
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answered by cristoiglesia 7
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The documents we call the apocrypha were written about the same time as those of the New Testament, in the first century or two AD. Before the Counsel of Nicea in the early 4th century, there -was- no New Testament, only various writings followed by various Christians.
Many of these were written by people who had studied the Old Testament. Jesus himself apparently had some serious training in the Old Testament, and quotes and interprets it various places in the four gospels. Paul was a Pharisee and as such was trained in the Old Testament and he also refers to it in his writings.
The apocrypha are similar in content and authorship. They just didn't support the beliefs of the 'proto-orthodox', the group founded by Paul who eventually became the ones who decided which books should be considered canonical. If you look at the apocrypha (many books have been lost, others have turned up in recent centuries) you see that they all share some material with the canonical books and have some stuff that is different.
2007-11-04 07:11:57
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answered by Anonymous
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APOCRYPHA [ From 200 B. C. ]:
1. The First Book of Esdras (also known as Third Esdras)
2. The Second Book of Esdras (also known as Fourth Esdras)
3. Tobit
4. Judith
5. The Additions to the Book of Esther
6. The Wisdom of Solomon
7. Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach
8. Baruch
9. The Letter of Jeremiah (This letter is sometimes
.. incorporated as the last chapter of Baruch. When this is
.. done the number of books is fourteen instead of fifteen.)
10. The Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three Young Men
11. Susanna
12. Bel and the Dragon
13. The Prayer of Manasseh
14. The First Book of Maccabees
15. The Second Book of Maccabees
A relative has read the greater portion of these to me.
I can't remember any quotes at the present time.
This and the word used for the writings of Moses not
only confussing to me, but to others it seens. I will
be more sure next time.
2007-11-04 07:05:37
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answered by jeni 7
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The Bible and the Quran have the comparable type of quotational similarities. The Apocrypha and the Deuterocanonical books might have some historic fee, they are actually not considered to be divinely stimulated. The apocrypha grew to become into further to the Greek Septuagint in Alexandria, as area of of an enlarged canon of sacred writings, whether they have been by no potential further into Jerusalem or Palestinian canon, they have been in basic terms ever considered as secondary writings and not of divine beginning. hence they have been excluded from the Hebrew canon. In Romans 3: a million, 2, Paul stresses the will for giving due attention to the Jewish stance, and why? by using fact they have been "entrusted with the sacred pronouncements of God" i will famous guy or woman this and perchance one among my contacts will answer.
2016-10-01 22:25:52
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answered by ? 4
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Note to Jen: The New Testament passages you list don't quote from the Apocrapha.
Note to A Person: The decision about which book should be included in the Scriptures was decided by the Apostles before they all died.
Its a myth that this was decided upon either at the Council at Hippo or the Council at Nicea.
Now getting back to the question, I'm not aware of any time which Jesus quotes from the Apocrpha.
If someone would like to make that claim I'd like to see the references from the New Testament as well as the reference of where that quote came from.
Pastor Art
Edit to Mr. Know it all
Where did you get that story which claims the Apocrapha was written about the time of the New Testament? That my friend is pure balogna! The 14 Apocraphal books were all written at least 250 years before Jesus was born and they appeared with the old testament Hebrew Scriptures when the Hebrew Scriptures were translated to form the Septuagent.
1st and 2nd Enoch are not part of the Apocrapha. They are part of what is known as the Pseudepigrapha.
Pastor Art
2007-11-04 07:13:36
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answered by Anonymous
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Very few bibles have the Apocrypha, but I have never heard that Jesus and the apostles quoted any. I really do not believe they were in existence at the time of Christ. I believe these were added by the Catholic Fathers 2 to 3 years later. ??? I have the catholic bible and those books are in there. You could tell after reading them either 7 or 8 , I can't remember. I'll have to check this out again. I have also heard the KJ Bible once had the apocrypha at one time. I believe it was KJ that had it removed or decanonized. Just a guess.
2007-11-04 07:21:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Even the Catholic websites admit that this is a false claim.
There are NO QUOTES at all of the Apocrypha in the New Testament.
The Catholics have many arguments for these non-canonical books, but they do not have a smoking gun.
2007-11-04 07:15:34
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answered by realchurchhistorian 4
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Quailman Quotes
2016-10-16 05:02:10
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answered by ? 4
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um, the book of the NT were put together after (about 300 years) jesus died. there were no apocrypha or canonical books unbtil the council of Hippo
2007-11-04 07:05:37
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