How do atheist know that God don't show himself to those that humble themselves to him?

Question

How would you know if you never tried. How about quit listening to what peaple say about God and find out about him on you own?Or do you simply just don't want to know.If you put your doubt away for a little bit and opened your mind to God I promise he will show himself to you.

Answer 1

Because we have the mental ability to pluralize words.

Answer 2

Umm, just to the person who said no-one saw him, didn't Joan of Arc see him? But anyway, I am neither Atheist nor Christian, I am open to all religions, but why is it that you assume that no-one has tried this? BTW, I've had no such luck yet, but I'm still open to trying to find him. However saying this, I don't agree with many beliefs from christianity such as the homosexuality sin and things like that, I mean isn't love supposed to be a good thing? It shouldn't matter who it is with but whether it is there. I have a friend who is homosexual but it doesn't make them a bad person. Oh and I suppose this is a question (to those of christianity) if someone committed suicide but believed and prayed to god and was loyal to him, would they be sentenced to hell? Or if someone who committed such atrocities as murder, could they be forgiven, though if non-believers did such a thing why would they be sentenced and the devout believers saved? Sorry, I'm just fascinated with religion. I believe that christianity and the sins were placed for people to fulfill an honest and good life by just following the guidelines, but I am pretty sure the majority of people do this anyway.

Answer 3

First you're employing a around ARGUMENT once you employ the Qur'an. that's a fallacy. next, do you have data that what you're saying is actual? i'm specific that each and all of us your arguments are no longer any different from different religions. So the two you're trolling right here and is attempting to make Muslims seem stupid, or you're surely an illogical and irrational person who enable your non secular thinks for himself. I pity you. besides, the only reason you do good issues is so which you will steer away from going to hell, and function intercourse with seventy two virgins. that may no longer morality. that's movements pushed via selfish beneficial properties. via the way. what's the punishment for apostasy in Islam? that's unhappy which you should intimidate human beings so as that they are going to stay interior your Mohameddan cult. "My ethical compass is interior me. It would not come from a so called sacred e book." - Ayaan Hirsi Magan Isse Guleid Ali Wai’ays Muhammad Ali Umar Osman Mahamud

Answer 4

If I just walked down from a mountain and into a town and a Father or preacher told me to start bowing to an invisible god that cannot be seen, in fact, nobody on Earth has EVER seen him, and I have to follow all the rules this god demands and if I don't, I'll be sent to a fiery lake forever ... I'd tell him where HE can go and I'd walk back up the mountain laughing all the way.

I DON"T think it's unreasonable to expect that if a god is as powerful as people claim, he could appear to me and say, "I know it's hard to believe, but here I am! God! And I really want you on my team!"

It's ridiculous to get ticked off with people because they aren't as gullible and naive as some others are! I'd think, if "believers" had one ounce of logic in their brains, they could understand how those who have never seen someone, might not believe they really exist simply based on your say so!
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Answer 5

Interesting question.

I'm not an atheist, but I DID try just what you propose. What I got was ... nothing.

I've spent more time on my knees in prayer than you likely have. I'm guessing you're in your 20's, maybe younger, and if so, I can certainly guarantee that I've spent more time in prayer than you have. I had good reason to.

So, please tell me why your god did not reveal himself to me? Are you talking about things that you feel? Anybody can have a feeling. A religious feeling, in which one "feels the presence of god" can be created with an electrode stimulating certain places in the brain. Feelings don't count.

So, what, other than feelings do you have? What visual, audible, or other tangible evidence is it that god provided you with? How did god "show" himself to you?

Did you suddenly speak in tongues? If you did, what did you say, and who did you say it to? Tongues, according to the Bible has a purpose: it is to communicate to others whose language you don't know.

On the other hand, you might have been a part of a healing ceremony. Was the person who was healed actually afflicted with a disease process known to be incurable, and not subject to spontaneous healing? A certain percentage of cancers will heal themselves without treatment, or where treatment was ineffective. That, obviously wouldn't count. If though, you prayed for someone who had a visibly broken bone, (i.e. the arm was bent at an odd angle between joints, or you had radiographic evidence) and it was healed in front of you, that would constitute "showing himself" to me.

If God shows himself, why did he not do so for me? I was certainly waiting on him. Am I to wait until I die? I'm sorry, but I needed to actually live. I was on the verge of successful suicide. My last attempt found me waking up in intensive care. I had no more time to wait, and I needed to stop pretending that god was real, and find a faith that worked for me.

Tell me, what did I do wrong? Was it that I didn't have faith? How can I have faith in what will not reveal itself to me? Have faith first, you say? Faith in what? Faith in what may or may not exist? Do you not see the circular nature of your argument?

If you expect somethign strong enough, you'll find that warm fuzzy feelign, but that's not evidence. That's a warm fuzzy feelign.

On the other hand, when I expanded my definition of "higher power", to include more, I received more than a warm fuzzy feeling.

But this isn't my place to promote my faith. Those who want to hear can ask me. This was an answer to your question. And to add to it though, how do you know that all the other faiths are wrong? Have you seriously tried them? Have you given Buddhism an honest chance? Islam? Native American Spirituality? Wicca? How can you discount the rest without trying them? Isn't that contempt without prior investigation? Why not put your money where your mouth is?

Answer 6

I know because I've tried.

That's a pretty arrogant thing to say. I can't speak for others, but I used to be christian! I humbled myself, and listened for that small, still voice, and you know what I heard? Nothing, save for the noises of my own mind. This might come as a shock, but it's not been for lack of trying that I haven't found any god. If by 'open your mind to god' you mean assume the voices of my interior monologue are the communications of some supernatural being, well....i think I'll not do that, thanks. If Mother Theresa spent her entire life in humble servitude to her god and what she believed was right, then why is it that even she claimed she'd never heard from it?

Answer 7

You seem to be forgetting or ignoring the fact that most atheists were born and raised in Christian families, so it is not accurate to say we "never tried" to believe and become good little Christians.

How about you provide some evidence, if you want us to "find out about him" on our own? It doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, to me.

Answer 8

Wow, that's kind of a one-track frame of mind, huh? Just because people believe something different from you doesn't automatically make them wrong. I'm actually a little insulted at this question, because it assumes that your choice of religion is the be-all end-all total truth in life.

And I'm not even athiest!

Answer 9

Look, sweetie. If your god wanted the atheists to believe in him, he would do something about it.

Just because you found a good religion for you doesn't mean that it's nice and perfect for everyone else.

Answer 10

I have tried, genius. You know, most atheists were raised religious, like me. I used to think that there was a god, and even then he never showed himself to me. When I used to pray for answers is wasn't god that gave them to me, it was my own self that gave them to me.

Answer 11

Over 90% of athiests have studied one or more religions intensely. I'm in the majority.