Why blame South American immigrants for fleeing abject poverty by coming to the United States?

Question

This is where Conservatives like Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and the rest show their pure evil; they know that most South American and Mexican immigrants face poverty and homelessness if they stay in their home countries, yet they pretend that these immigrants are coming here for other reasons, like toppling 'white Christians' from power and other claptrap. Stop blaming the victims, conservatives, and instead condemn totalitarian governments that force their poor to flee.

The way the divide between rich and poor is growing in this country, Americans may have to start emigrating to Canada and Western Europe ourselves to avoid penury.

Impeach Bush and Cheney now!

Dirty(er) Martini, they DO pay taxes; wake up.

BRAVO, MODERATEPROFESSOR! BULLSEYE!

Answer 1

While I feel you could have left out the majority of the political bashing and banter, I agree totally with the idea presented here.

The US created and has continued to control the governments of central and south America for nearly 100 years. We have funded military coups to oust democratically elected governments because they didn't jive with our government's idea of how we want them to behave. In general, we treat them like abused step children and keep them in poverty, yet get outraged when they come to our country looking for a better life. People wish they would come legally, but the average American simply doesn't understand that there really is no legal avenue for them to take to gain entrance; we simply don't allow them, but take from damn-near any other 3rd world dung-pile that actively tries to hurt our country. In a word, the situation is f#@ked!

Answer 2

Here are my responses to your five talking points. 1. – No person is illegal. Illegal is an adjective for behavior, not an individual. If you are able to attach illegal to any person violating a law, whether federal, state or local, then there are many more illegal people than just the immigrants. 2. – The way I understand it, many of the undocumented immigrants’ children are US citizens by birth. So the vast numbers being quoted by public office seekers are skewed for sensationalism. An undocumented immigrant does NOT qualify for public benefits (education & emergency care excluded). 3. – This country does not know poverty. What poverty there is can be addressed. The economy in this country is such that anyone who WANTS to work can find work. There is NO excuse for unemployment in the US today. Maybe there are people that feel above the jobs available, but that is no excuse for unemployment. 4. – This is goes to you. I cannot argue with you on this one. You are correct. 5. – One of our most renown American icons – the Statue of Liberty boasts the following words, “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-toss to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” How much more patriotic, my dear James, would you have us be?

Answer 3

When you get an infection from a splinter in your finger just cut off your hand; make sense - as much as your argument. I agree with the plight of the illegals but allowing them to illegally enter our country, use up our own scare resources, march against our society, replace our flag with theirs, demand privileges that even our own citizens and legal immigrants get is not in our nations best interest, If you allow O'Reilly, Coulter and especially Limbaugh to influence you in any way, right or left, then you have a real problem. These people are a part of society’s problem. If any one of them was as smart as they would like you to think they would be doing something about the problem not adding to it. Limbaugh has done more to hurt our country than most illegals! We can not blame people for wanting to better themselves but we can not be responsible for the problems of other countries. You probably feel sorry for yourself because you were not born to a Clinton, a Bush, a Kennedy, or your father is not an oil executive making millions every year. We can sympathize but we can not allow them to break into our country, break our laws, march against our society, and DEMAND rights and privileges we do not get ourselves!

Answer 4

I don't think anyone needs to be "impeached", at least not over immigration. The only "immigrant" that USA citizens don't want here are those sneaking in illegally. You can bet if USA citizens were to sneak into South America countries illegally, without a dime in their pockets to support themselves until they can find work, and the only work they can get is with someone who will illegally pay them "under the table" so that none of their earnings goes to taxes to support the country, expecting to get government aid for education and free medical treatment paid for by legal citizen's taxes, they would meet with far worse consequences than having some political criticism. If there is any "impeachment" it should be for not doing more to stop illegals from crossing borders. Stop blaming USA citizens. Blame the people who are trying to be here illegally.

Answer 5

I'm actually fairly liberal, and think that bill o reilly and company are morons at best, but i'm tired of the illegal imigrants. It is hurting our country, and I am personally suffering. I come from an average middle, to upper middle class family. Both of my parents have paid taxes, as have I.Right now I can't work, I am 25, single, have no kids, am a citizen and CAN'T GET HEALTH INSURANCE! The only way I can is to either get myself knocked up, or to not be a citizen. The fact that People in my very own country, that have followed the rules, and have done what they are suppsed to can't get help because people feel like fighting my governement for the help their own governement won't give them is absurd.

Would it be better if I just went completly on welfare? Sure thats on option. But that would then be taking away the benefits of a family that was homeless. I have a house, my parents can help me some, but they can't do it all.

Why is it that we have to take care of them? Why can't they fight their own governement? I bet many more americans would jump behind them and offer to help if they wanted help in their own country. But no they want help in OUR COUNTRY!

And personally its not just the fact that they come here. Let them come here. But make them stick to the same rules and regulations as everybody else. They should have to pay taxes. Pay back some of the help we give them. And i'm sorry, but they should be required to learn enlgish. Americans expect other countries to learn our language and cator to us, yet they come here and we are supposed to learn their language? This is NOT what this country was founded for. IT is not why my great grandfather came to this country. He came here legally. My family has worked hard for everything they have.

Oh and lets not forget the fact that though it may not have happend yet, terrorist could sneak through our loose borders. Yes the possiblity is remote. But is it worth risking just one life to have open boarders? Is an entire country worth risking our own? This is not a black and white issue. And its about way more then just helping the poor. We have poor in our own country too. Maybe if you spent some more time looking into the issue, you would realize that. And see that helping a few from another country will do nothing to fix our own.

Answer 6

why not blame, to stay or to come to the U.S. is a choice. why do they have to come here when they could stay and fight for what they want in there country of origin. what makes you think their case is any more tragic then any other impoverished person in the world. just because they are within walking distance of the U.S. doesn't make them any more entitled to come then the next poor person. when you see something and you want it, if it's not yours and you take it anyway it makes you a thief. stealing and coveting are not very christian like for a supposedly deeply religious and family oriented people. by the way they are not immigrants they are illegals. immigrants applied to come and have a right to be here. illegals are interlopers with no regard for law. when illegals work under the table just how and who are they paying taxes to?

Answer 7

Those countries want to unload their uneducated poor to the US to stop a revolution in their countries.....one % of the elete owns all the country...it is their best intererest therefore, their policy to keep the borders open....i would like to see these people go back overthrough these goverments...the US is becoming more like a third world country with the bushes and cheneys trying to create a monarchy...i see cival disturbance in this country in the next 20 years

Answer 8

Would you rather I blame the fish in the sea for the South Americans crimes?

The growing divide between the rich and the poor in this country has been made worse by the influx of illegal aliens in this country, and people like you.

If you knew politics you would very much like G.W. Bush....he likes illegal aliens here.......ya d o r k

Answer 9

You're asking us to close our eyes to reality and except your delusions of schmaltz and conspiracy theory.

My elderly parents receive the same $500 SS as many 13 yr old illegal girls with a baby born on U.S. soil. Who's living in abject poverty.

I have family in Mexico who tell me that those who live in that abject poverty make a choice every day to spend their last centavos on cervezas while others make wiser choices and make a fair living.

I saw rows and rows of houses in a border town recently with sheets for roofs, card-board roofing, plastic sheet roofing, etc. All the way in as I walked toward my friend's house (the road was too rough for a car so the taxi dropped me off), beer bottles lay in piles of of hundreds. Shiny. A dirt road in the desert and everything was covered in this sand and dust. But not the beer bottles. Why not? Because they were new.

These people had spent every dime on beer and tequila. That was their choice. Americans were coming and going, businesses were sprouting up in other parts of town (sans beer bottle piles) but these people had made their choice.

Take your imaginary torture-tales elsewhere. I'm too disabused of illusion to buy in. Thanks anyway, though.


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Answer 10

Why is it that Mexico has harsher laws pertaining to illegals in their country then we do? Try getting caught going into Mexico illegally once,and see what happens. It is a mandatory 10 year sentence, and is used mostly against those from South America crossing into Mexico to look for better jobs. Do some research before you talk about something you have no clue about. I dare you to go to a Mexican border patrol,and take off running to the other side without going thru the proper channels,and see what happens to you.

Answer 11

I blame the lack of immigration enforcement over the last 20 years or so for the current impasse we American citizens are facing. Many of the criminal trespassers are fully aware of thier criminal act, yet they continue in their unlawful act. I refuse to allow criminals to run rampant in my country simply because they would rather run than stand and fight for the rights and freedoms they covet. I would rather fight, starve and be shot like a dog in the streets than allow anyone to force me to leave MY homeland.
It is called integrity, get some.