Have your dreams ever caused you to ponder the idea of 'collective unconscious' ?

Question

Have you ever experienced a dream and read about the same events in the news the next day? .. or week? Have you ever seen linkages between dream images and "outer world" which might be explained most easily thru some collective mind-sort of thing?

or felt like you ever "learned" things by "being around" people who already knew things?

ever noticed the "thought-field" existing when you walk onto a college campus?

ever noticed the "thought-field" existing when you walk onto a military base and notice how they're not the same?

ever felt great peace being around someone "spiritually in tune" with the universe?

or a contrary feeling being around someone who is not?

can you conceive of any application of the concept of 'collective unconscious' as explanation for any of these feelings ?
and others I can't think of at the moment ..

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thank you, Don

No labels, I don't understand

Jorge S .. I think this is the type of thing I've seen as well

Smirnofette ... yup .. maybe reading 'the secret' would help ; I'll keep my eyes open

messageoflove, I agree, the awareness is not always pleasant

Natasha P, I hope you have recovered from your experience. It sounds like it would have been a painful time for you (and others)

Bryant, it almost certainly relates

Dr Zapp, I have read somewhat of the 'classical' interpretation of the collective unconscious, and admire the work of Jung. However, I might be suggesting a different facet of the CU ... one that mediates the awareness of individuals by providing both a conduit and "sensor-extensions" beyond the physical body. [ and I might emphasize that altho

[it may be] "more or less the same everywhere and in all individuals."

the way that different individuals *express* the CU varies extremely.

thank you for the clear detailing of its history

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Spirit wanderer, thank you ... (I can relate to math-testing and "surprise knowledge" )

yes "unnerving" seems to fit

I did 6 years in the military and understand from direct experience part of what the mind-field on a base is like ... it can be ok at tiems and places, since people *are* people, but it's quite different from walking onto Berkeley (one of my favorite 'liberty' places to go ... years ago)

squirt, yes, I have an approximate understanding .. I got to know some people on the Taos reservation and have a strange story to relate sometime off-Y!A ... exciting tiems indeed

Lisa, I agree in re 'explanation', but I'm learning something ... I asked this question to hear what others have to say. ( most of what I know I learned *from* other people)
yes, you seem very sensitive to these things

Answer 1

Well...to answer the questions individually:

Yes and yes.

Yes, and I'm happy to announce that because of that I got an "A" on my math test! ^_^

Yeah I have...it's rather unnerving.

Haven't had the dubious honor of being on a military base.

Yes I have.

Yes I have, and it's mainly around Christians that I feel discord...

Hm...well, hive-mind-ish?

Answer 2

lol You ought to walk onto the Navajo reservation! It's unlike any place in the world I have ever been. It is an extremely peaceful powerhouse. I love it. Your brain waves change. You literally feel time stop. I have dreamed about the collect consciousness many times. My favorite was looking up and seeing what looked like a giant amoeba. Inside the amoeba were cells all moving around and excited. One of the cells flew out of the amoeba and came at me. I ducked, but I swear I could hear it laughing, but it got me anyway. lol I will be glad when I figure out what that was. You can't be around people and not notice the difference in people now. We know each other when we meet. You get the most warm, understanding, knowing smile. These DNA changes are exciting, aren't they?
The energy grids you mention are on all government installations. It is a negative energy. The towns or cities you feel this on are major government sites, public or hidden.

Answer 3

Yes. In things as simple as dreaming of a record I'd never seen (or noticed) and buying it the very next day. Since you speak of collective unconscious, I've also dreamed of things like Olmec or Toltec sculptures in the jungle feeling like I had been there, scenes from World War II or an 18th century parade, for example. Those are, I think, interesting things.

Answer 4

Acording to the Zohar, The bible of Kaballah (Jewish mysticism) the collective consciousnes of the enightened is YIsrael. The consciousness of one of the enlightened is Yisraelie.

Not to be confused with the state of Israel or a member of that state an Israelie.

I am sure that this realates.

Great spiritual teachers exude radiance that is absorbed by those around them. Like basking in the sun one gets tanned.

So yes, you are on to something,

Keep digging! The truth is self evident.

Blessings and peace to all,
All in all,
B

Answer 5

Yes, this has happened to me.
I remember the day before 9/11, I was in a dream I was flying in the air on my pokemon Dragonite. The plane was speeding towards the twin towers, I screamed come back come back stop stop!
and it crashed into the buildings..I was in third grade when this happend.

Answer 6

The "collective unconscious" is the part of the collective psyche that is unconscious, the other parts being consciousness of the perceptible world and consciousness itself. The collective unconscious is different from and in addition to the personal unconscious in that it is a stratum of reality that "does not derive from personal experience and is not a personal acquisition but is inborn...universal...[and] more or less the same everywhere and in all individuals." (Jung, 1934 [1948]).

The term collective unconscious was first introduced by Carl Gustav Jung in 1916 in a talk to the Zurich School for Analytical Psychology entitled "Uber das Unbewesste und seine Inhalte." The German manuscript for this talk was not found until 1961, after Jung's death. The earliest written appearance of the term was found in the French translation of the Zurich talk published in 1916 in the Archives de Psychologies (Jung, 1916).

Jung's notion of the collective unconscious ranges from a passive repository that records the history of all human reactions to the world to an active substratum that is the ground out of which all reality emerges. The components of the collective unconscious were first said by Jung to be primordial or ancestral images and later archetypes that manifest in consciousness through images, strong affects, and behavioral patterns. When the energies of the collective unconscious break through into consciousness, consciousness itself is altered, and reactions vary from insanity to a significant reordering of major attitudes.

The notion of the collective unconscious first came to Jung from a dream he had in 1909 on board a ship returning from the United States with Freud. The dream depicted a house that had a cellar below the normal cellar and below that a repository of prehistoric pottery, bones, and skulls. "I thought, of course, that he [Freud] would accept the cellars below this cellar [i.e., the personal unconscious], but the dreams [during the writing of his first book, from 1910 to 1912] were preparing me for the contrary" (McGuire, 1989). In fact, Freud acknowledged primordial ancestral patterns but regarded them as simply inheritable traits (Lamarckianism) posited in each individual (the biogenetic law). For Freud such experiences were phylogenetic recapitulations unrelated to a transcendent structure such as the collective unconscious, but for Jung they arise anew from the collective unconscious in each person in each instance just as they did in one's ancestors.

By 1925 Jung had theorized that the collective unconscious and the external world are opposites between which lies the observing ego which accesses the collective unconscious through the anima or animus and the world through the persona. The personal unconscious of Freud is regarded as the shadow of the ego. This schema remained unchanged for Jung.

Jung's collective unconscious can be seen as a variation within the tradition of philosophical idealism. It shares characteristics with the Apeiron of Anaximander, the One of Parmenides, and the Forms of Plato. It also calls to mind the Pleroma of the Gnostics, the Categories of Emmanuel Kant, and the Will of Arthur Schopenhauer. What justifies Jung's notion as psychology and not philosophy is his insistence that the collective unconscious is an empirical fact attested to by the common experiences of humankind over many ages and cultures. Jung's proof is phenomenological, and he avoids claiming a priori truths whether or not he believes they exist.

In spite of his avoidance of ontological affirmations, Jung often appears to suggest that the collective unconscious is a metaphysical reality, which invites less sophisticated analysts to engage in ideological thinking and inflated claims to transcendent knowledge. In his review of Jung's autobiography, Winnicott says that the positing of a collective unconscious results from Jung's split psyche and "was part of his attempt to deal with his lack of contact with what could now be called the unconscious-according-to-Freud." (Winnicott, 1964) With this criticism, Winnicott dismissed Jung's and perhaps all efforts to speculate about and derive heuristic guidelines consonant with an ultimate ground against which lie subjectivity, consciousness, and the very mystery of life. As Jung points out, the alternative is a void.

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Answer 7

yes, i fully agree, it's because thoughts and feelings are in the air all the time and you are just feeling them. You need to read 'the secret'.

Answer 8

Yes, I have-- many, many times.

I seem to be more sensitive than most to this stuff too...

And I really have no other explanation for it...

Answer 9

yes, but it is not something I always enjoy having an awareness of

Answer 10

You have been paying attention.

Good for you.

Love and blessings Don