Evolutionists: How do you explain this?

Question

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071103/sc_livescience/ancientandmoderncondorscoexistedfossilssuggest

You guys call christans closed minded, but you automatilcy think im trying to disprove evolution. Just because i dont believe it ever happened with man, i have to attempt to disprove evolution every chance i get? That sounds like some good old closed minded thinking to me. I asked this question for a purpose, and that purpose has been served. God bless.

Answer 1

How do i explain a new species of Condor................ Grasping for Straws are we?

Answer 2

Easy. As the article states, there were two (or perhaps 3) distinct species of condor at the end of the last ice age (about 10KYA). One of the species became extinct. Extinction happens. And species can also survive for long periods of time, and also can give rise to new species. All this happens all the time and is still happening.

The article title "Ancient and Modern Condors Co-Existed, Fossils Suggest" is a little confusing. Often, some writers don't understand science don't know how to state the point clearly.

Answer 3

1. There is no such thing as an "evolutionist" - the word is made up, like "rowrbazzle".

2. This doesn't refute evolution as many of the others have stated - it actually provides more evidence in favor of it because the more fit species survived.

3. From my 1982 Biology 101 college textbook: "Extinction proves evolution". The only thing this article proves is that it is just more evidence FOR evolution - not against it.

Answer 4

Why should this be remarkable?

We see it on Earth now. Modern possums are little changed from the ancient didelphids that were on Earth when the dinosaurs roamed. Many of today's advanced marsupials (such as koalas and kangaroos) are descended from ancestral possum-like creatures that crossed the antarctic land bridge into Australia.

So we live in a world today in which advanced marsupials share the planet with something much like their ancestors; it isn't a terribly remarkable thing.

When a new species becomes sufficiently geographically isolated to speciate, it often goes into a new ecological niche. When it comes out of geographic isolation, that means it can live in the same habitat as its predecessor without killing it off.

Prior to the time when humans speciated from the ancestors of chimps, this common ancestor was probably much like a chimp, other than some slight dental and facial differences. Humans adapted heavily to a strategy of tool use and big game hunting - and so it is possible for us to live in the same ranges as chimpanzees without needing to compete with them.

Hence a species and something much like its ancestor. Sharing the same habitat.

As I said, this is all quite unremarkable.

Answer 5

That's nothing new. Ancient and new forms of species have often been shown to co-exist. Crocodiles, for example, are technically dinosaurs and existed in their era as well. Ants have lived on earth since the time of the dinosaurs, etc... If a species is particularly adaptable, it can survive many change in its environment without needing to evolve much itself. One branch of the condors specialized in a certain way while part of the population did not need to adapt.
It's nothing particularly new or astounding, sorry.

Answer 6

They think they might have evidence of another extinct species of Condor. They think this because they found different sized condor thigh bones than they ones from the known extinct specie or the current almost extinct specie.
They also think it might have died out after humans made it into California so it is likely something that was still living less than 14,000 years ago.

The article really is simple if you read through it.

Answer 7

Well lets see. How to explain that 4,000 years before the bible says the earth existed 2 types of condors were flying around California and now there is only one. That's tough to explain. Maybe one species didn't have enough good sex and died out.

Answer 8

If anything, this article supports the idea of a slowly occurring change in species. Evolution.
Also, in the first paragraph, they mention "10,000" years ago. According to bible-believers, isn't the earth only 6,000 years old?

Answer 9

Ancient and Modern Condors Co-Existed, Fossils Suggest.

Answer 10

A new twist on a tired old objection to the theory of evolution: "If man evolved from apes, how come there still are apes?"

If you have two populations of the same species, and one evolves into a new species, it doesn't mean the other population has to go extinct. You'd think the creationists would have given this one a rest by now.

Answer 11

What's the problem? Three species of condor coexisted at the same time. So? Guess what, there are a whole of different species of similar animals today, too. Learn some biology!