Rev 12: 1-5: A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven; an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron sceptre. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
Here is a Bible passage that shows Mary crowned in heaven. She wears a heavenly crown of twelve stars. A crown plainly denotes Queenship.
How much more clearly could Mary's honour be illustrated?
2007-11-03 12:12:59 · 11 answers · asked by TigerLily 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
So let's see if I understand some of the logic people are using here. This passage is symbolic because it refers to a woman who gives birth to a male child who will rule the nations with an iron sceptre. Unless I missed something somewhere, that would be Jesus, who was born long before the events portrayed in Revelation. His birth and future reign is to be taken literally in that passage. But "the woman" can only be symbolic of the church and cannot possibly refer to Mary, the one who gave birth to that very real male child.
There ya have it, folks -- Protestant logic at its finest.
2007-11-03 13:48:18 · answer #1 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
This may be Mary, but more likely the Mother the Church. We are in those times. A woman giving birth: all the labour and pain we see in the world is a reflection of the difficulty the church is having in coming to grips with the world. We are in a great upheaval: every volcano, every earthquake, every disaster in the land and in the world: wars, famine, wildfires and floods. All these things are signs not in the world before, and they are coming together more and more quickly, as a woman in child-birth.
Something is coming, I don't know what, but the devil doesn't want it: he wants to kill it dead. He wants to chew it up.
There will be triumph in the end. That old dragon will not succeed.
12 tribes of Israel
12 apostles.
12 stars.
2007-11-03 13:03:09 · answer #2 · answered by Shinigami 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
In the Bible a woman in prophecy always relates to a church and in this case Israel, the church or lineage which bore Jesus (from Jacob's line). In current times, the prophecy is pointing to the true remnant church.
There is nowhere is scripture stating that we should venerate Mary and hold her as equal to God. This allows Mary to become a co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate which is basically allowing Mary to take the place of Jesus as the mediator.
John 14:6 states 'Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me'. So if we are praying to Mary, will God hear our prayers?
The Marian doctrine is traced back to the ancient pagan religions where a false trinity is set up with a Father, Mother and Child e.g Isis, Horus and Seb from ancient Egypt where Isis is the equivalent to Mary in Catholicism. This doctrine has sadly infiltrated to almost every religion worldwide. Do some research and this will become apparent.
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
2007-11-03 12:58:55 · answer #3 · answered by blah2k8 1 · 0⤊ 4⤋
If Jesus ,Mary's Son, is King of heaven ,then Mary,His Mother, is queen mother of heaven.
Ishtar/Ashera/Venus/Athrodite is not the Queen of heaven in the slightest but a usurper of the title.
2007-11-03 14:24:50 · answer #4 · answered by James O 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Mary is the Queen of Heaven
2007-11-03 12:25:10 · answer #5 · answered by Angel Eyes 5 · 5⤊ 1⤋
they do not understand because they are not of the Body of Christ. If they truly received the body of Christ in Holy Communion they would love their Mother, but they do not and consequently only look at things from a worldly standpoint
2007-11-03 12:29:25 · answer #6 · answered by Midge 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
blak2k8- there's no eyptian trinity, and seb certainly wouldn't be in it if there were.
well it would be a lot clearer if the bible just said "Mary is full of grace and is blessed among women" o wait...
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2007-11-03 13:27:49 · answer #7 · answered by Quailman 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
a vivid imagination can be a good thing; however, the passage refers to israel...heaven has no queen, and needs none-isn't the Lord God enough for you?
2007-11-03 12:22:25 · answer #8 · answered by spike missing debra m 7 · 2⤊ 4⤋
It represents Israel...not Mary.
2007-11-03 12:16:29 · answer #9 · answered by Royal Racer Hell=Grave © 7 · 4⤊ 7⤋
the woman is Israel and the believing church....read the rest of the chapter.
this is during the tribulation....not 2000 years ago
2007-11-03 12:16:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 6⤋