Catholics and mormons?

Question

This is not an attack. Just a question.

I know Catholics hold that tradition is equal to scripture. That not everything is contained in the Bible and that Sola Scriptura is a bad idea. So what do Catholics think about groups like the mormons that have added new "scripture". Do you think it is wrong? Or since you believe Sola Scriptura to be wrong is it alright?

CC - You get banned again? I see you are lvl 1 again. Thanks for the answer. I was just curious since Catholics disagree with Sola Scriptura what they thought about this.

cristoiglesia - I think you have a bit of a mistaken idea about us protestants. We do not take away nor add to the Bible. We take it as it is. If you are referring to the apocrypha then let me point you to the early church leaders who did not consider it inspired. In addition to it not being considered inspired by the Jews who are the keepers of the OT. All we did was remove something that never should have been included in the first place.

Answer 1

Hi-diddly-ho there Edge!

You cannot add to Scripture. Even the Catholic Church cannot do that, because the canonical list is infallible, and therefore cannot be changed. The council headed by Pope Damusus was infallible, and therefore the cannon of the NT is infallible.

CCC 120 -It was by the apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings are to be included in the list of the sacred books. This complete list is called the canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament (45 if we count Jeremiah and Lamentations as one) and 27 for the New.
The Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah, Tobit, Judith, Esther, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Songs, the Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Baruch, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.

The New Testament: the Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the Acts of the Apostles, the Letters of St. Paul to the Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon, the Letter to the Hebrews, the Letters of James, 1 and 2 Peter, 1, 2, and 3 John, and Jude, and Revelation (the Apocalypse).

Answer 2

Scripture is Sacred Tradition but Sola Scriptura is not taught in Scriptures and is a doctrine of men. In fact, St. Paul taught against Sola Scriptura. I think that it is just as wrong for Mormons to add to the Bible as it is for Protestants to take away from it.

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

Edge,

You are mistaken, the Bible canonized by the African Synods, finalized in the early fifth century, is the Christian Bible. The Christian Bible consists of the OT books contained in the Canon of the diaspora Greek, Essene Canon and not the Canon of the Pharisees adopted by the Reformers who had no authority to take away from the Scriptures of the Church. The Pharisaical Canon was never used by the Church before the Reformation. I am not referring to the apocrypha which were books banned by Pope Gelasius but to the Deuterocanonicals contained in the original Canon of the Christian Church. Personally, I do not care about the Canon of the Pharisees but only the Canon of the Christian Church. The Jews in Jesus’ time had at least four Canons but the one Jesus and the apostles quoted from was the diaspora/Essene Canon and never from the Canon of the Pharisees.

Answer 3

After the death of Jesus Christ, the Apostles of the Church were persecuted, many of them killed. With the death of the Apostles, priesthood keys and authority were taken from the earth. Doctrines were corrupted and unauthorized changes were made in Church organization and priesthood ordinances, such as baptism and conferring the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This “apostasy” led to the emergence of many churches. Many of which, recognized that the doctrines and ordinances of the gospel had been changed or lost. They did not claim prophecy but instead the Christian churches tried to reform teachings and practices.

These events of reformation led to religious freedom. Which opened the way for the final restoration of Christ’s church.

God once again reached out to His children in love. He called a young man named Joseph Smith as a prophet. Through him the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ was restored to the earth.

The young missionaries of the Mormon Church can teach you the rest of this story…Bible, Book of Mormon, Families, Temple, Marriage, etc. It’s wonderful!

Answer 4

The canon of Sacred Scripture was closed long before Joseph Smith wrote his book. The Book of Mormon cannot be considered apostolic (as is Sacred Tradition*), canonical, or inspired. "Inspirational" to some, perhaps. Big difference.

The proponents of "sola scriptura" don't accept it as such, either, on the same basis -- even though it's written and billed as "another gospel".

*Sacred Tradition: "The term does not refer to legends or mythological accounts, nor does it encompass transitory customs or practices which may change, as circumstances warrant, such as styles of priestly dress, particular forms of devotion to saints, or even liturgical rubrics. Sacred or apostolic tradition consists of the teachings that the apostles passed on orally through their preaching. "

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Howdy, Cru. Back in the saddle again, I see!

Answer 5

good to see you Catholic Crusader.
Personal revelation is viewed as simply that and is fine as long as it does not go against what has already been revealed in Scripture but, it is not obligatory to believe it whereas what the Mormons have done is made personal revelation (and it is entirely questionable by who this was revealed because of the heretical content) a dogma for their Church--big difference.

Answer 6

I am not Catholic but after John wrote Revelation that closed the book there is nothing more to be written and nothing more to explain. I have read the Book of Mormon it is full of nothingness. I compare it to Jobs first friend and comforter who explains he seen a vision and a spirit passed before his face... its non-sense

Answer 7

The mormon books are a deception from satan.