Question to the Jehovah Witnesses...... Is Jesus the same as the archangel Micheal?

Question

If no angel can ever be called God's Son (Hebrews 1:5)--and if Jesus is in fact the Son of God---then doesn't this mean that Jesus cannot be the archangel Michael?

Answer 1

I have study with the JW, they were 2 wonderful women and they were slightly prepared when they came to my door. One thing we discussed was Jesus as the archangel Micheal, they gave me the chain of scriptures that Shane referenced and I read them, and prayed about it. I can see how some may be mistaken on this point, and how one can assume the two are the same, but in all actuality they are not.
They way that I explain the scriptures to them was this...."I like to view Heaven as a political power, you have God, the President...Jesus Christ, Vice-President, and then you have all the offices related to the political powers ( National Security Council, the Office of Management and Budget, the Council of Economic Advisers, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the Office of National Drug Control Policy and the Office of Science and Technology Policy. House of Representatives and the Senate.) We learned that angels had jobs in heaven, due to the fact that Satan had a job. In Revelations we see that Micheal leads the armies into battle, when our country goes into battle, the President nor the Vice-President are there marching in with the troops. Instead they are lead by Generals, Captians, and so on. So because of this, it is possible that Micheal is the general of God's army and that is why we see him going into battle, and that he is called the Chief and so on."
But that is what I believe, and that is what the spirit has guided me to believe.

Answer 2

THE BIBLE IS JEHOVAH'S WITNESS JESUS BEING THE GREATES ONE

Will the bible answer who Michael and Christ Jesus are?

Jesus is the first creation created by God in his image [ what was his name in all those heavenly years ]? John 17:3,5,24; Col.1:15-17; Rev.3:12,14;
The most important being, the only begotton Son of God was nameless for
ages in time?
What is being said about angels and the son of God, or sons of God Job 2: 1,2; 38:4-7; Heb.1:1-13 [ who will sit at God's right hand until his enemies, Satan and 1/3 angels are cast down? Satan to be under their feet [Rom.16:20; Rev.12:7-12; Matt.22:42-44; Acts 2:27-35 ]; Satan under foot of the heavenly that is raised up at the last day John 39:40.44;
Rev.16:22; Jesus is the bright and morning star, the other angels are morning stars and Satan Job 2:1,2; Isa.14:12-14; as Lucifer means day star ];
How long was Jesus in heaven before Jesus came to earth as the word made flesh? John 1:14; and anointed by God as Christ Jesus Matt.3:16; 6:9-13; 16:16; 22:37-40; 28:18 [ all power is given Jesus over heaven and earth ]; Jesus is the savior of the world, from the foundation of the world.
Was he with Moses and the 603,550 heirs of the family of Abraham from the Exodus to the death of Moses Exo.23:20-23; So Mosed died. Jude 9; Who was the angel, is he the only one of his kind? Years 2513 to 2553, Joshua 2554, 857 to 897 years after the flood, 1553 to 1513 to 1512 before Christ.

[ Year 3460, 1804 years after the flood, 907 years after Moses dies, no 420 year old temple ], Solomon dead 391 years, the Promised Land is desolate, all is captive to Babylon world Empire #3, at 606 before Christ in Rome world Empire #6. who is help for Daniel in the den of lions, or help for those in the fiery furnace, or Daniel when Cyrus is in World Empire #4? Dan.9,2,24,27 [ He is told: Messiah will be cut off world Empire #6 ]. 10:13,21 [ Michael is there with his strength, Daniel sees, nations and Greece world Empire 5 ];
Daniel is 633 to 606 B. C. his time of the end prophecy, to 533 and Cyrus.
Satan will be in the time of the end as Jude 9; Michael in Dan.12:1-13; at Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; has power to give Satan his short time in the time of the end cast down to earth, as Jesus now has a place prepared for those he will raise up, gather, or those caught up to be with him at his second coming?

Rev.1:1-5; Rev.5:11; the heavens are vast with angels. Matt.26:53; Jesus could have had 72,000 or 12 legions of angels, but was crucified instead.

SO WHO IS MICHAEL? Jesus ascended to sit at God's right hand, Heb.1:1-13; says and angel sits at God right hand, for the same purpose as Jesus
does, that is have his enemies cast out of heaven to be under foot.

What does archangel mean? That angel at the right hand of God, is above all the other angels, Acts 2:27-35 [ Jesus is above all, Matt.28:18 ].
I say Michael where Michael applies and Jesus where Jesus applies. I always say Abraham and leave off Abram, I always say Jacob and leave off Israel. To think that Michael is the heavenly name of Jesus, none can say it is wrong.

Answer 3

"Jehovah Witnesses If Jesus is Micheal the Archangel What scripture contained in the bible does Michael the Archangel have the authority to forgive sins ?" Your question assumes they're 2 distinctive human beings. Michael, the call Jesus had in the previous he grew to become a human, did no longer have the authority to forgive sins. Jesus on no account won this authority until eventually after he died as a human. Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus approached and spoke to them, asserting: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Michael, with a clean call Jesus, became given all authority over heaven and earth. Who gave him this authority and why, if he became "god contained in the flesh", did he no longer have all authority whilst he became a human? Jehovah gave him this authority. he's the spokesman, or intense priest, of his God. he's a thank you to God. once you spot Jesus, you will desire to as nicely say you spot God because of the fact he has all authority. whilst each little thing is accomplished that God needs accomplished, Jesus will quit that authority back to his God and Father so as that God would nicely be each little thing to honestly all of us. a million Cor 15:24-28 "next, the top,whilst he palms over the dominion to his God and Father, whilst he has brought to no longer something all government and all authority and means. 25 For he would desire to rule as king until eventually [God] has placed all enemies under his feet. 26 because of the fact the final enemy, dying is to be brought to no longer something. For [God] “subjected all issues under his feet.” yet whilst he says that ‘all issues have been subjected,’ it is clean that it is apart from the single that subjected all issues to him. 28 yet whilst all issues would have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will additionally subject himself to the single that subjected all issues to him, that God could be all issues to all of us."

Answer 4

Shane got there before me and explains it well.

Just wanted to point out something- angels CAN be called sons of God.

Job 38:4-7 speaks of the sons of God rejoicing at the creation of the earth- surely it can't be anyone else but angels around at that time!!!

Job 1:6,7 mentions the sons of God coming to a meeting with God, and Satan came to that meeting too.

There are so many other verses showing that not only Jesus is called a son of God.

Hebrews 1:5 is just emphasizing Jesus' elevated role above the other angels.

Answer 5

It seems remarkable to nontrinitarians when trinitarians focus on Hebrews chapter 1. The fact that they occasionally do so is powerful proof that there is a serious shortage of support for their ideas.


Hebrews 1:5 and 1:13 are absolutely the OPPOSITE of trinity proof texts! In fact, these verses (along with the verses from which Paul there quotes) demonstrate conclusively that Jesus *IS* (and was) an angel and distinct from Jehovah. Those verses ask three questions which are actually specific references to earlier Scriptures about Jesus, and each and every one of those Hebrew Scriptures juxtaposes Jesus as separate and distinct from the person of "Jehovah" (note that each referenced "OT" Scripture actually uses the Tetragrammaton). Thus, when each question frames itself as asking about “which angel” ("to which angel...?") then a well-read bible student in Paul's day or our own day would immediately recognize the quoted verses which supply each answer as pointing to Jesus (A: "the angel is Jesus!"), and reminding that Jesus is a distinct person from Jehovah.

There is no reason to argue that the apostle Paul was asking trick questions. Here is each of Paul’s rhetorical questions, along with the earlier Scriptural references from which Paul quotes...


From Hebrews 1:5, the question posed:
Q: [quote]To which one of the angels did [God] ever say: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father"?[unquote]

The obvious answer:
To which angel? To the angel Jesus, the Christ, as Psalm 2 shows!
(Psalm 2:2-12) High officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one [footnote; "Christ"]... Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father..."


From Hebrews 1:5, the question posed:
Q: [quote]To which of one of the angels did [God] ever say: ..."I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son"?[unquote]

The obvious answer:
To which angel? To the angel Jesus, God's chosen King, as 2 Samuel 7 shows!
(2 Samuel 7:11-14) Jehovah has told you ... I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son


From Hebrews 1:13, the question posed:
Q: [quote]To which one of the angels has [God] ever said: “Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet”?[unquote]

The obvious answer:
To which angel? To the angel Jesus, who waited patiently for God's purposes to unfold, as Psalm 110 shows!
(Psalm 110:1) The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”


Remarkably, the only way this passage from Hebrews could possibly reconcile with trinitarianism is if one believes Paul was asking trick questions to confuse his readers.

The name "Michael" only appears five times in the entire bible. Jehovah's Witnesses do happen to believe that "Michael" is another name for Jesus.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_06.htm

Answer 6

I am not a Jehovah Witness. However, I KNOW Jesus and Archangel Michael are two different things. So knows anyone who can recognize energies.

Call Jesus, and you will feel his energy and love.

Call Michael, and you will feel his.

The point being, these are different. Coming from two different sources.

Simple, simple, people have just forgotten this all.

Answer 7

They claim that he is, It is the single most Blasphemous thing that you can do as a (supposed christian).

Can you be a christian and not even know who Christ even is?

I don't think so.

Answer 8

Jesus is Michael the Archangel.


Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) Is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 (RS) associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

The prefix “arch,” meaning “chief” or “principal,” implies that there is only one archangel, the chief angel; in the Scriptures, “archangel” is never found in the plural. First Thessalonians 4:16, in speaking of the preeminence of the archangel and the authority of his office, does so in reference to the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” It is, therefore, not without significance that the only name directly associated with the word “archangel” is Michael.—Jude 9.

THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—“Who Is Like God?” But who is Michael?

At times, individuals are known by more than one name. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel, and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2; Matthew 10:2) Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth. Let us consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion.

Archangel. God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” (Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

Army Leader. The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.

Answer 9

Yes it does. Michael is an angel that serves Jesus. He is not Jesus.

Answer 10

The J.W. rejects a tri-God. Answer the question. I don't believe so.