How can Jesus be the begotten Son of God in his pre-earthly existance and still be God?

Question

Chris, begoten does mean created. Get a dictionary.

Answer 1

Jesus was created solely by God himself and therefore he was begotten, he is not God but Gods son.

THE Bible calls Jesus the “only-begotten Son” of God. (John 1:14; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9) Trinitarians say that since God is eternal, so the Son of God is eternal. But how can a person be a son and at the same time be as old as his father?

Trinitarians claim that in the case of Jesus, “only-begotten” is not the same as the dictionary definition of “begetting,” which is “to procreate as the father.” (Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary) They say that in Jesus’ case it means “the sense of unoriginated relationship,” a sort of only son relationship without the begetting. (Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words) Does that sound logical to you? Can a man father a son without begetting him?

Furthermore, why does the Bible use the very same Greek word for “only-begotten” (as Vine admits without any explanation) to describe the relationship of Isaac to Abraham? Hebrews 11:17 speaks of Isaac as Abraham’s “only-begotten son.” There can be no question that in Isaac’s case, he was only-begotten in the normal sense, not equal in time or position to his father.

The basic Greek word for “only-begotten” used for Jesus and Isaac is mo·no·ge·nes′, from mo′nos, meaning “only,” and gi′no·mai, a root word meaning “to generate,” “to become (come into being),” states Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance. Hence, mo·no·ge·nes′ is defined as: “Only born, only begotten, i.e. an only child.”—A Greek and English Lexicon of the New Testament, by E. Robinson.

The Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by Gerhard Kittel, says: “[Mo·no·ge·nes′] means ‘of sole descent,’ i.e., without brothers or sisters.” This book also states that at John 1:18; 3:16, 18; and 1 John 4:9, “the relation of Jesus is not just compared to that of an only child to its father. It is the relation of the only-begotten to the Father.”

So Jesus, the only-begotten Son, had a beginning to his life. And Almighty God can rightly be called his Begetter, or Father, in the same sense that an earthly father, like Abraham, begets a son. (Hebrews 11:17) Hence, when the Bible speaks of God as the “Father” of Jesus, it means what it says—that they are two separate individuals. God is the senior. Jesus is the junior—in time, position, power, and knowledge.

When one considers that Jesus was not the only spirit son of God created in heaven, it becomes evident why the term “only-begotten Son” was used in his case. Countless other created spirit beings, angels, are also called “sons of God,” in the same sense that Adam was, because their life-force originated with Jehovah God, the Fountain, or Source, of life. (Job 38:7; Psalm 36:9; Luke 3:38) But these were all created through the “only-begotten Son,” who was the only one directly begotten by God.—Colossians 1:15-17.

Answer 2

Christ is not the begotten Son of God, but the first begotten Son. This has more to do with His place as the first born who will inherit all that is the Father's. So, Christ is the first born of all creation, yet He has always existed. The language is similar to us calling the Father a "he". God the Father is a spiritual being without a body, but has chosen to reveal Himself in the language of maleness.

Christ is the first begotten from all creation. Which means He is God's only true Son and the heir to all that is created for Him and by Him.

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Answer 3

It is simple, think of it God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit always existed, read Genesis, I won't quote just remember that it says In the beginning there was nothing and God was with the Word and The Word was God and the Word said let there be light and God created the light and saw that it was good, and then the Word said.... and so on...

Now who do you think the Word was, Jesus for who better than to spread the good news of salvation through the grace of God than the Word Himself, so God let us for a while experience know His love by giving us as a sacrifice to erase sin forever, with the ultimate sacrifice, how many of you would give up your sons or daughters for another human being. God so loved His creation that he gave us a way out of our corporal selves through the sacrifice of Jesus our great teacher.

Jesus is and always was God, He came to teach us because the earth was filling up and there is information missing or not yet understood in His wisdom God allows all things looking at the big picture and intervention is not always recognized.

Peace be with you. Jesus although He knew He was the son of God did not boast of this, in fact He was the humble human being that ever walked this earth.

Answer 4

FIRST off as I stated in your last question begotten a past tense of beget means: To be the biological father of. YOU get a dicionary, no where in the definition is the word created in the definition of bege. and especially not in the context in which you are trying to place it.

Secondly, Jesus the physical form was the begotten son. No where does it talk about a "pre earthly"(what a stupid expression) existance as the begotten Son of God.

"pre earthly" if you must use that expression refers to Jesus as the Logos (Word. The Word made Flesh).

Answer 5

God told us quite enough about what He would do. Unless you are prepared to say that God didn't exist before Jesus, then I think you will have a difficult time missing it:


6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
( Isaiah 9 )

So literally, a child was born, his name, Jesus of Nazareth. And the government will be on his shoulders when He returns. And He is called Wonderful Counselor ( Holy Spirit ) , Might God ( Most High God ) , Everlasting Father ( The Father ) , Prince of Peace.

I really don't see how anyone can miss it unless God didn't put His wisdom in them. What sign does anyone need?

Answer 6

It's like this; If God were a contiguous big ocean, we are but droplets in it. Jesus had about the size of the Pacific. The Pacific may not be the whole ocean but He is still the ocean. He was begotten in the sense that He developed a distinct consciousness of HIs own, not that HIs part of the ocean was created.

Answer 7

Only begotten means special creation. Jehovah created Jesus first and made him his master worker. When mankind sinned Jehovah destroyed all of them but a few in a flood. When mankind continued to sin God sent messengers to their leaders to repent to no avail. So God finally sent his only begotten "Special creation" 2ND in command, down to earth in the form of a perfect man in order to redeem us from our sins. The Ultimate Sacrifice.The bible says satan tempted Jesus with everything on earth. Why would satan tempt the creator of heaven and earth. This is fuzzy logic. When these false teachers try and make Jesus God almighty they stumble Jews and Muslims who want to believe in God's plan of slavation. And we all know who is behind it.

Answer 8

Before the fall of man, Jesus was at the right hand of the Father.

Philippians chapter 2 (NIV)
5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death–
even death on a cross!

Imagine being in heaven and leaving all that to come to earth to be born a man - eventually to be beaten to a pulp and hung on a cross.

Amazing love.

Answer 9

The term begotten doesn't imply that Jesus once existed separately from God. The word is used to describe his dearness to his Father; he was always his delight.

Answer 10

Your question makes no sense. Why can't he be the Son of God in his pre-earthly existance and still be God?

I think all you are saying is that you do not understand God. Well, isn't that reasonable? I mean, he is the creator of all. He is not human. If an alien being from another planet came to earth, you would not question the fact that he would not be human and might have abilities that we do not have. So why question God's being? He is what he claims to be.