Is Patience a major factor in Living in the Present, why do we jump the gun so to speak?

Question

Namaste

Peace and Love

Answer 1

Hi Digilook,
Patience is a virtue. I'm not sure everything comes to those who wait because there are some things I've been waiting for all my life, but I will stay hopeful. Maybe hope is a major component of patience. Also understanding comes into it too.
I'm an incredibly patient person but sometimes I have to rely on intuition, sometimes common sense. If my instinct tells me it is time to make a move, I will do so. Some opportunities have to be snatched while they are there as they will be gone tomorrow. Not to take them up could lead to regrets. Take them up and was this jumping the gun? There is also patience and preparation. i.e. one example I can think of now is do we stick with 360 til the bitter end only to find we have lost all our contacts, all our friends? Or do we adapt to the changes that might be and take control ourselves? Through setting up on a new site, despite the complications of learning something new, at least we have something to fall back on. So difficult to decide. Do we sit and patiently wait but perhaps lose it all? Or do we make a move while we have the choice to do so? Patience is a major factor in living in the present but preparation is a major factor of securing our future.
I wonder if this makes sense???
Pollyanna

Answer 2

Yes, patience is certainly a major factor. Patience among other things means not being obsessed with likes and dislikes, hopes and fears, and instead living the moment fully just as it is. Patience means accepting the present as it is. If you're getting upset or angry, that means you don't accept the present, and thus don't live in it.

This all certainly doesn't mean just giving up or not striving for anything - it just means you can strive freely first when you fully accept the present moment as the present moment, i.e. you fully see where you are (in the now present) before you start to walk (in the then present) from there (into the next present). Joyful effort and perseverance is just as important as living in the moment, all being components in the striving for a life of love, compassion and wisdom.

Answer 3

I don't feel patience is a major factor to living in the moment.
Patience is of the mind.
Living in the moment is of the heart.
In living in the heart, that is the present moment.
In the heart, there is no past, there is no future, there is only this moment.

I am not talking here of the emotional heart.
I talk of the heart of all that is.
It is a learned response.
It is a moment to moment discipline.


Why does one "jump the gun"
Do you mean why can't you be patient.
I don't know why for you, it is subjective.

Why one cannot stay in the present moment, is because the mind will take you out of this.
As soon as you identify, consider, compare, differentiate, question, you are back in the mind.



Peace in the heart.

Answer 4

The nature of impatience is a desire for the future. Patience is to a lesser degree but is still a hunger for the future, very subtle difference. To remain in the present there cannot be a trace of thirst for the future or of the past. When the future and the past have been dropped, the present arises on its own accord.

Answer 5

Now, now, now, Digilook...is both the caution (as in "Now, now, now, child...you must be patient.") and the instruction. It certainly seems that we do jump the gun; think of that child...I want it now and I want it my way. The ego-self is determined to have things its way in its own "time." So, I say (probably out of my own ego ignorance) that even patience is inappropriate if every Now is gone before it can be comprehneded. Ride the wave of Ocean's Now, Now, Now, and arrive before you leave...for the only possibility is to enjoy the ride with full awareness. I am Sirius

Answer 6

I don't know yet, but I'm trying to find out. I don't think that living in the present means totally ignoring the past or the future. Your reference points can help orient you a bit.

Answer 7

patience is important but we have so much to do through the day trying to get to work or home from work that we get angry in traffic and shopping and taking care of your family, paying bills and so on, that we stress ourselves out.

Answer 8

Yes im 100% sure we will see him in our time. I had a dream a few years ago. I also remember i had this dream 2 weeks before the first uprising in Tunisia. In this dream I looked out my living room window. And i saw my road. I saw atrocities, havoc, destruction and fitnah, blood shed sins and it was mayhem. I have a park opposite my home. This park was isolated with thick white fog and in the far distance i saw a black figure sitting cross legged watching my road and the situation in the dunya. I was the only one who noticed this black figure. As the fitnah increased, i saw the figure move closer and closer itself. A metal gate came out of the ground and blocked my view of this black figure. I went to my bedroom adn looked from the window and I saw this black figure get up and walk under a large tree and when it emerged, it had a thick orangy redish skin, he was extremely muscular and he had something floating in his hand. He wasnt wearing a shirt and he was huge. He immediately went to my home and opened the door and went in the kitchen and started cutting tomatoes pretending to help my mum with the cooking. In the dream i immediately started thinking about the location of my other family members int he house. To ensure they were away from dajjal. I ran to the kitchen and i told him aggressively i will cut the tomatoes.I didnt want to tell my mum he was dajjal infront of my mum becuase he was pretending to act nice and i told her who he is, he may harm us. When i told him to sotp cuting the tomatoes, he became excesively aggresive and hit my arm with his fist and shouted even louder i will cut them. It actualyl hurt and the pain felt very real, although it was a dream. He then got up and went to a local shop and bought some more tomatoes. I told my mum that is dajjal the anti christ. My mum gave me the quran and told me to memorise the first 10 verses of surah kalf. As soon as i held the quran, dajjal opened my front door and staired at me with his one eye and walahi i remember it so clearly, as if it happened yesterday. He had a a giant knife in his hand and started chasing me. I had the quran and fled from him and as i was fleeing from him, i woke up sweating. Yeah we will see him 100% in our life time. Allah doesn't show these dreams for no reason. I remember every detail very very clearly and prior to this dream, i wasnt thinking about this topic. So yeah do dua for me that Allah helps me memories the first 10 verses of surah kalf and all of you who read this learn it aswell. It inst easy memorizing them. Salam

Answer 9

i have no patience........i like to cut out the middle man

Answer 10

Fear.

Love and blessings Don