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2007-11-03 01:04:35 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Sara, Satan does not represent free will. Satan was foreordained to everlasting death.

In I Timothy 5:2, the apostle Paul writes, "I charge thee in the sight of God, and Jesus Christ, and the ELECT ANGELS, that thou observe these things." And of the reprobate angels we read in Jude 6, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the last day."

God elected some angels, and foreordained all the rest to everlasting death.

“By the decree of God, for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death.”

2007-11-03 08:49:00 · answer #1 · answered by Steve 4 · 0 0

The prince of this world, Satan, Lucifer, the devil--as a soul--made those necessities, as it were, of the consciousness in materiality; that man might--or that the soul might--become aware of its separation from the God-force. The continued warring that is ever present in materiality or the flesh, or the warring-as is termed--between those influences of good and evil. Satan was created that men maybe free. A tool in God's hand. Free will was created in spirit and then became flesh and it is and will always remain on this Planet. This is a freewill zone.

2007-11-03 01:28:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Jesus' will was to do the will of the Father. The concept of free-will is a double-edged sword. As a Christian one gives up their free-will to do the will of the Father by Christs example. Whereas others who exercise free-will only satisfy "self". All sin lies in the gratification of satisfying self! Therefore Satan represents free will.

2007-11-03 01:22:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Assuming God didn't order Satan to create a rebellion in heaven with 1/3 of the angels, Satan rebelled on his own, and is thus the first example of free will.

2007-11-03 01:10:10 · answer #4 · answered by foru0810 3 · 2 3

Salam

There is limits set, and there was rules given from the very start by Allah SWT. As you stated in the other question we know Angels do nothing but the will of Allah SWT and that is very clear in all scriptures proven to be real also with facts and testifing evidence of those who are in and where in those elements and times with their situations.

The 2nd Creation was Al Jinn and as Allah SWT states manytimes in the Quran and how each of those of the books that battled such one you have stated in times and history to mankind have seen the free will that is expended by those who are not peaceful in nature and intention for their own intentions or left there of. Allah SWT said he created Al Jinn and Al Nass to worship him alone. They represent all the free will and the animals represent the instinct created after Al Nass. The order is very clear surely The first created Angel Jibreal A.s. would never bend from his rules from The Lord he was created without choice and from the purest light of Allah SWT. Al Jinn has been given a choice, but have not been explained what has been given and what has not been given.

There is many hadiths that show that Allah SWT has talked about the limits and transgressions that others have done to be in sin. As there is rewards for goodness is there not punishment for the badness done? If your Lord is just, then you know he is measuring and there is no greater planner and measurer than Allah. Al hamdoullah

2007-11-03 03:36:24 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Who else but Satan represents the extreme free will of a mind that wants to experience the fruits of the world without the harsh parent figure lurking in the background? To do whatever they want without consequence.

2007-11-03 01:37:39 · answer #6 · answered by thundercatt9 7 · 0 4

Because WAY back when Satan was one of God's angels. Then, he got jealous of Gods power and wanted it so badly so he Rebelled. The Heavans had a battle, and of course, Satan lost. So God banished Satan to the core of the earth for all eternity. Satan represents free will because he did what he wanted. Did what SATAN thought was right. And God didnt try to control him or stop him. That is free will.

2007-11-03 01:15:12 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

2007-11-03 01:33:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Because angels --including satan--were created before humanity, and satan (lucifer) chose to give glory to himself instead of giving it to God.

In this rebellion of choice, lucifer--with one third of the heavenly hosts (angels) who followed him---was cast out of the presence of God and fell to earth as a result.

God only responded to the choice of lucifer.

To Christians, this represents most clearly how a being can be in the very presence of God yet choose to raise themselves up above God through pride (which comes "before the fall").

This means that free will is not simply a matter of choice, but rather it is making a conscious decision to assume the glory of God for oneself, even though God has made Himself known to all people.

BTW, in Orthodox Christian theology it is very clear that angels are not humans who were once alive.

Humans are created "a little lower" than the angels, given the choice as to weather or not they want to press into God and be lifted above the angels, or turn their backs on God and to willingly make themselves subject to lucifer and his minions.

I hope this helps.

2007-11-03 02:05:34 · answer #9 · answered by gordios_thomas_icxc 4 · 0 3

The idea is that Satan is a "rebel angel," and of course you can't "rebel" if you don't have free will. It's the same reasoning used with Adam and Eve. All so that we don't have to place the blame on God for the existence of evil in the world. He gave us "free will," and it was OUR choice to screw things up.

Of course, if God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, free will on the part of any partial being is impossible, or at least illusory; so that all these apologies crash.

2007-11-03 01:15:51 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

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