Brigham Young wrote, "What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in heaven. Now, let all who may hear this doctrines pause before they make light of them or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their damnation or salvation. I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, pp. 50-51)
Many Mormons today will ignore this writings of Brigham Young because it grates their ears to know that he really taught this as doctrine. Whether or not they accept this fact the truth still remains that Mormon officials believe this doctrine of Adam-God. Why do Mormons try to bury and ignore this fact? I challenged every single Mormon in this world to check this writings in their archives.
2007-11-03 00:17:53 · 10 answers · asked by Justyn M. 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Because the "Book of the Mormoms" is a fake as is their religion. That is what you want to hear right?
Good Luck!!!
2007-11-03 00:28:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 5⤋
Why do YOU tell us what is or is not doctrine for our church?
WE know what we believe, and what we don't.
We don't know what Brigham Young meant by his "Adam/God" theory and we don't teach it, since Brigham Young knew taht Adam was not our Heavenly Father, which is the ONLY God we worship.
Paul talked about theh first Adam and the Second Adam, and that Adam was/is a "god". But, what Brigham Young said was very confusing to most people today, and most people just ignore it. Since subsequent prophets do not teach it, then it's not doctrine.
I challenge you to find out more about what we believe, from us, and what we believe about what past prophets have said.
We don't get our doctrine from the Journals of Discourses, we get it from God, and from scripture. We don't bury it either. If we did that, we wouldn't allow the J of D's to ever see the light of day.
2007-11-08 13:13:10 · answer #2 · answered by mormon_4_jesus 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It doesnt say He was begat in the Garden of Eden. It says, as i read it that "Jesus...was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the Garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven."
Brigham Young seems to be stressing that Jesus was not the child of the Holy Ghost, but the child of God the Father. The same God who walked in the garden of Eden as recorded in the Old Testament in the book of Genesis chapter three verse eight which reads: "and they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day:and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden."
2007-11-03 00:32:12 · answer #3 · answered by god of thunder 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Not many people, including me, will argue about your assertion. But this is the United States. They can believe what they want. And I have met some Mormons who were pretty decent people.
If you look through the NIV or King James Bibles, you'll see some glaring differences. Same thing if you compare Catholicism to Baptistism or any other denomination. Whether those differences are as wide as some of the stuff Mormonism teaches is up the individual to decide. God will let them know if they were right or wrong.
2007-11-03 00:24:52 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
The Mormon revelatory process has two steps. According to Doctrine and Covenants 9:8, if one wants to get a message from God, she needs to first study the question out in her mind, and second ask got if her tentative decision or conclusion is right. This revelatory process is the same for any member of the Church, from a Sunday-school teacher to a prophet.
In the early years of the Church, when its theological foundations were still being laid, much speculative doctrine was being “studied out” in Mormon circles. Subsequent revelation from God has shown that some of that early speculation was not theologically correct. The “Adam-God” doctrine is a fine example of such doctrinal speculation (“studying out”) that God subsequently said was not “right.” Other theological “studies” from this time period were confirmed true by God and are now accepted Mormon doctrines.
A similar process took place in the early post-apostolic Christian church. In the centuries following the death of the apostles, there was much theological debate regarding the nature of God and what constituted Christian doctrine. Ultimately, groups of men came together and established “creeds” to resolve these conflicting doctrinal questions. The path of Mormon Christianity has been somewhat different; doctrinal speculations were confirmed true or false via revelation from God, not by groups of mortal theologians.
Regarding the “Adam-God” theory specifically, it was never accepted by the Mormon Church as official doctrine. None of Brigham Young’s successors taught the concept (suggesting that the theory had not been confirmed valid by subsequent revelation from God), and many of his contemporaries did not accept the idea as doctrine. Even Brigham Young himself rarely spoke of his theory.
In 1902, the Church issued the following statement: “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has never formulated or adopted any theory concerning the subject treated upon by President Young as to Adam.”
The idea that modern Mormon leaders “secretly” believe in the Adam-God theory is ridiculous. Anti-Mormons can say what they want, but the simple fact is that “Adam-God” is not a doctrine of the LDS (Mormon) Church.
P.S. Your claim that this passage suggests that Jesus Christ was born in the Garden of Eden is not correct. I suggest you read the passage more carefully; even Brigham Young never made that claim. :)
2007-11-03 12:47:42 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Theo's first paragraph is correct, to a point. I have never heard that we get our own planets. That is an invention of an excommunicated man by the name of Ed Decker. We believe that we have the chance to be A god, not to replace God. We will continue to worship God.
The second was a little off. I have never in all of my years as a member heard about God having more then the ONE wife. If he had or has more than one, the Bible didn't cover and and He didn't mention it.
2007-11-03 03:46:35 · answer #6 · answered by Dublin Ducky 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Wait a minute... are you saying that God that Father and God the Holy Ghost had an affair in the fresh of the Garden of Eden and they begot Jesus?
I don't believe it! Wow!
Hey on a second thought... maybe it is true! I always wondered about the gender of God the Holy Ghost... In Hebrew "spirit" is Female (she). In Greek it is neutral (it--see KJV), and in English is male (he)....
2007-11-03 00:31:42 · answer #7 · answered by Opus 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because what it really says is 'Adam became God'.
The purpose of this teaching is to tell all Mormons that when they die they also become gods. Each gets their own planet to rule over just as God has this planet to rule over.
At least that is what I have read, and it was written by an ex-Mormon.
She also said that Mormons are taught that every time a child is born on earth it is because God had sex with one of his many wives in heaven.
That strikes me as very weird!
grace2u
2007-11-03 00:35:52 · answer #8 · answered by Theophilus 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Its because the Father is not real and hence Brigham never actually taught anyone.
2007-11-03 00:22:37 · answer #9 · answered by pamphlet_one 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They won't listen. They're too busy shagging their wives while voting for Romney and listening to the Osmonds.
2007-11-03 00:21:26 · answer #10 · answered by gillespiebkk 3 · 0⤊ 4⤋