Christ himself is not God?
The Jehovah's Witnessess say that, since Christ is the Mediator, he must not be God, for the Mediator must be separate and distinct from those who need mediation ( Should You Believe in the Trinity? 1989,16 )
2007-11-02 17:35:42 · 13 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
" For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time"
2007-11-02 17:38:08 · update #1
A mediator between God and man has to be both God and man. Jesus is the perfect mediator. Look at other translations and you will come to this conclusion. Consult also a commentary.
"For there is one God. There is also one mediator between God and the human race, Christ Jesus, himself human," - 1 Timothy 2,5 (New American Bible)
Here is another formal equivalence translation.
"5For there is (G)one God, and (H)one mediator also between God and men, the (I)man Christ Jesus," - New American Standard Bible
2007-11-02 17:40:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 2⤋
Christ is a mediator between God THE FATHER and us. Jesus himself said that he was Gods son and had all his authority and in fact was God. JW's cant handle those words.
Either Jesus was who he said he was or the JW's are right and that makes Christ a liar, which in turn nullifies the New Covenant which in turn gives us no hope.
2007-11-03 00:56:03 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes, but there are other scriptures that say God and Jesus are separate persons.
Who did Jesus say God is? At John 17:3, Jesus called his Father, the only true God. "Only" means "to the exclusion of others." So by calling his Father the only true God, Jesus was excluding himself as the true God.
At John 5:23, 24, Jesus linked the Father ALONE with being God. There, he said: "The hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth."
At 1 Cor. 8:6, it says: "There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him." So, if the "one God is the Father, then it must not include Jesus since he is the Son.
1 Cor. 11:3: "The head of the Christ is God." Is Christ his own head? No. God is Christ's head.
Heb. 9:24: "For Christ entered, not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us." Did Jesus appear before himself? No. He appeared before God.
Is Jesus God? At 1 John 5:5, it says: "Who is the one that conquers the world but he who has faith that Jesus is the Son of God?"
Since Jesus is BETWEEN the "one God" and men, he can't BE the "one God."
2007-11-03 04:52:46 · answer #3 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
John 10:30 I and my Father are One.
John 1:1 and go on to read that John the Baptist came to testify to the Light.
Sovereign and Lord signifying Jesus is without limit and fully God with absolution of power. aka fully God. Not lacking any measure (besides being in the flesh)
For in Isaiah 7:14 says that God will send a sign and he will be Immanuel, ( God with us)
2007-11-03 00:44:06 · answer #4 · answered by Dennis James 5 · 5⤊ 0⤋
No.
We can likewise say that the Holy Spirit is a mediator or intercessor:
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. - Romans 8:26.
hence, ...
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. - Colossians 2:9.
2007-11-03 00:51:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
there is only two in the God Family.The Holy Spirit is, does not stand by it self; its God's spirit, its what God sends out to do His work, and what He gives to His people, so they can understand, and makes them strong. Jesus when He was on earth, He used God spirit to heal the heal the sick, and all the other things He did. Jesus came to be our scape goat,and became our High priest, Whom we con go through to God the father. There in no Trinity, only Jesus Christ the Son and God the Father, they are two and also one with each other., Just as man and wife are two, but also one flesh.
2007-11-03 01:12:53 · answer #6 · answered by Herb E 4 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Jesus is both true God and true Man. Jesus reconciled humanity through his perfect obedience as a man and saved us through his divinity. As a man, Jesus followed the law perfectly. As God, Jesus is our divine savior. Jesus has both a distinct divine and human nature in one divine person. God bless.
2007-11-03 00:40:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 1⤋
John 10, Jesus is speaking.
30 I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
2007-11-03 00:43:23 · answer #8 · answered by Truth 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋
why he is the mediator if he is God? , then when we are using Jesus as a Mediator then he is not God almighty and if he is God almighty then he is not the mediator to be with God.
2007-11-03 00:50:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Jesus prayed to God, thanked God, and worshiped God. If Jesus was God, then He would have been doing all that to Himself. Now don't that sound silly, to think Jesus is God.
2007-11-03 00:43:18 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋