Christians, anyone who believes in evolution....?

Question

Ok...I want to know:

1.) Atheist/anyone who believes in evolution, evidence of evolution, I know some, but please, list your sources, and what your evidence is.

2.) Creationists, I would like to know your own evidence, quote your book if need be, but I would much prefer empirical evidence. Once again, site your sources and list your reasons why.

Please no insults, and if the only thing you can say is, "Look it up yourself," please do not respond. Let the games begin!!

Primoa- No, I do not take offense, but since you did not state any sort of reasoning behind your statement, I cannot take it as fact as you do.

Answer 1

Atheist.

1) Fossil record
2) DNA evidence
3) Vestigial organs
5) Similarity between organisms
6) Occurrences of macroevolution in lab conditions
7) Specialisation
8) ...It just makes so much sense

Answer 2

I tend toward the middle of the road, which to most sounds like a cop out but I really don't believe that's true.

The way I look at it is, you can't break something down
into the individual pieces that exceed the greater whole.

Like if you took apart a watch. None of the pieces would be greater than the thing they had previously been a part of.
I believe the same could be said of humans being loose pieces of the universe. For humans to be conscious and aware then those disparate pieces must by definition be
less so than the thing they are but one part of. Some might
say that analogy stops with our planet but I would extend it to the universe at large. For consciousness to exist on our individual level it must also exist on the larger cosmic level.

My resolution for evolution vs. creation is that god created the universe but science is the language the universe is written in. Like a recipe is the language of cooking.

God cooked us up a nice little universe here and science is
the search for the recipe he used. Or at this point, the search for his secret ingredient...since string theory has gotten us within spitting distance of the Grand Unified Theory that
scientists believe with finally explain it all.

As far as arguments for or against God...I suggest
a book called "letters from a skeptic" by greg boyd.
It's a debate between a son who is a methodist pastor and
his father who is a professed atheist about why the son believes and the father doesn't. It's a quick read and really really interesting. I can't recommend it highly enough.

One last word on the debate as a whole though...
The only reason who believes what needs to matter at all
is when religion and science compete for dominance in setting public policy. Science believes that it should be in charge because it relies on proven quantifiable data.
Religion believes that belief is all and that truth is something that can be known absent proof.

Which is fine for the individual. They can choose to live that way. They have that right. But when everyone has a different belief and these want to impose their version on someone who may believe differently...it has and always will get ugly real quick.

In this way, science has the upper hand in matters of public policy, applying an objective standard of evidence to anything that will dictate public policy.

Answer 3

How about this? I think that evolution makes NO SENSE at all! I can't believe that people assume this theory to be a true one except for the fact that it is treated as a truth in our society. I'm speaking rationally and scientifically. The problem in this debate is that evolutionists will reject scientific evidence brought forth by creationists as "wacky" or "bad science" but will form a story around a scientific discovery to support evolutionary theory. I think that radical creationists give rational creationists a bad name at the same time. Carbon 14 dating has been shown to be radically incorrect for years, but that doesn't support the prevailing belief in evolution, so it gets tossed out. Many things cannot be proved scientifically, history being one of them and evolutionary theory tries to prove history scientifically which is an impossibility because there is no control group or direct observation, key points in science. There is a good book that takes on evolution with a legal argument, using a forensic type of setting and trying to set up legal proof for and against evolution. It's called "Darwin on Trial" by Philip E. Johnson. I like that it takes evolution out of a setting where it doesn't seem to belong and views it from a different standpoint. Thanks for reading!
*EDIT* I believe that you can reject evolutionary theory without accepting creationism. It's not an either/or factor, they are two theories on the beginning of life, but only two.

Answer 4

Really mature and sensitive respons Primoa. Now take your bigotry elsewhere.

For me Christianity is a belief in the teaching of Jesus Christ. I see nothing in those teachings to conflict with Darwin's "Theory of Evolution." Stephen Hawking, was blessed by the Pope for "proving" that the whole of creation comes from one entity, God to some, Jehovah, Allah to others. I do not believe that Methuselah lived for 900+ years or whatever.
Does that make me any less of a Christian?

A question such as this is far beyond the reach of "YA". especially as it is not a forum with any right of reply. So I will say "Look it up yourself". If you want a specific answer to a specific question, I could try to answer it. What exactly IS your question?

Answer 5

Well I am a Christian, and I believe in evolution. My belief in evolution was strengthened after reading The Language of God by Francis Collins. Here are the points that are convincing.

1. Comparison of human and chimp chromosome anatomy. It is believed that chimp chromosomes 2a and 2b fused to form human chromosome 2. The evidence points to human chromosome 2 having DNA sequences near the centromere that are more commonly found at the telomere. For those that do not know, the centromere is the portion of the chromosome that holds the 2 sister chromatids together. The telomere is the "end" sequences of the chromosome. Therefore, it is easy to see that these chimp chromosomes may have fused at the telomere regions to form human chromosome 2.
2. Gene order. Comparative analysis of human and mouse genomes has revealed that many identical genes between the species are in the same order on the chromosome.
3. I cannot remember the name of the gene, but there is a gene in monkeys that makes a jaw muscle protein. Humans have the same gene, but it is a pseudogene. This protein helps make the jaw stronger in monkeys.
4. FOXP2 is a gene that is involved in language. This was found through examination of a family from England (I believe). This family had several members who had a hard time learning simple grammar rules and speaking. It turns out they had a mutation that changed one amino acid for the FOXP2 protein. Monkeys also have the FOXP2 gene. Amazingly, humans and chimps differ by only 2 amino acids. We have a language and they do not because of 2 amino acids. Also, recently researchers found that neanderthals may have had a language because analysis of some bones found FOXP2 in their DNA.

I think this is some rather convincing evidence of evolution.

Answer 6

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution
The Scientific Case for Common Descent

Answer 7

i became raised as a Christian yet I nonetheless settle for evolution. i will clarify why. God reported, "enable there be mild. " And He observed the mild became solid. i'm exceptionally constructive that when the super Bang happened, there became lots of light. i don't sense the previous testomony became meant to be taken actually. Adam and Eve are symbolic of society on the time. i think of it extremely is the element in history whilst guy began to question himself approximately his very own morals. perchance human beings the place commencing to be much less nomadic than contained in the previous and for this reason had to take accountability for the relationships that they had with others around them. maximum Christians stay by using the recent testomony. those are the training of Jesus. they're elementary morals that all of us would desire to stay by using.

Answer 8

I am a Christian and I believe that God used the process of evolution as His mechanism for creating the complexity of life. I further believe that mankind's desire to be distinguished from and considered superior to the other animals is based in pride and arrogance, both of which Christ warned us against. Many people try to make God simple enough so that they can pretend they understand Him instead of admitting they cannot hope to do so and should instead be humble before the unknowable.

Answer 9

Ok, only Christians can be creationists....or some Jewish people. Basically the way you phrased your question was like saying there's only one of two options; be a christian or an atheist. And I believe in evolution...just to answer your question. No, I'm not an atheist.

Answer 10

Christian: that's me... I believe in the uncompromised true and difinite word of the one true God. He is Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. There is so many facts to demonstrate that God is. My faith does it for me but since you need more...
John 20:24-29 Search the Smithsonian archives and the Biblical Archaeology. christiananswers.net
Good day to you~

Answer 11

1) I saw a mini-dachshund, and noticed that while it was very like a wolf, and had wolf ancestors, it wasn't a wolf.

2) Faith in Moses is required for this. Moses is the primary source for crediting the god of Abraham with the Creation.