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Don't use the bible as evidence that doesn't prove god is real because the bible was written centuries after Jesus' death

2007-11-02 07:35:18 · 22 answers · asked by Maddie D 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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There isn't any.

2007-11-02 07:38:05 · answer #1 · answered by Leviathan 6 · 3 0

Parts of the Bible were written way before Jesus was even born. The New Testament was finished being written in about AD 90 or so. Just so you know!

I think the fact that life exists at all in such complexity is proof that God exists. That may not be enough for you though!

I will counter with this: prove to me that God doesn't exist. I think it is even harder to prove that He doesn't exist because there is too much evidence that He does in the universe around us. You can't see every speck of the universe, you can't know everything there is to know, and God may be out there beyond where you can see or know.

2007-11-02 14:40:51 · answer #2 · answered by Blue Eyed Christian 7 · 0 2

What would you consider as proof?

And, BTW, most of the text of the Bible was written 500-1500 years before Jesus was born. It's called, in modern day parlance, the Old Testament.

But here's one to consider: The bible states that only one type of animal has completely split hooves and does not chew its cud (ruminant)....the pig in all its varieties. A bold statement if written by a man wandering in a middle eastern desert some 3300 years ago. Yet, in the last 3+ millenia, this statement has held true as virtually every corner of the planet has been explored.

2007-11-02 14:38:55 · answer #3 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 2 1

There is only ONE thing in which you can be ABSOLUTELY certain. It is that YOU (intellect and will) exist. You can only be reasonably certain that anything else, including your own body, exists. So start with you. It goes like this: I am ABSOLUTELY certain I exist. My own limitations prove I am not an omnipotent being. So either you are the only person that exists or not? Where did you come from? Take it from there. If you get lost, go back to "start with you". At some point, you may find yourself saying: I exist, therefore an omnipotent being has to exist. The nature of this being comes later. In other words, if you do not exist, then as far as you are concerned, this omnipotent being does not exist. Again, if you are lost here, go back to "start with you" because you can only be reasonably certain I even sent this to you.

2007-11-02 15:04:21 · answer #4 · answered by gismoII 7 · 0 0

Whenever you are asked where a thing came from you reply god made it.

think of the universe the great old universe, who made it ? what was there before it? Who started the process ? What is nothingness? How did it all begin?
Ask yourself these questions and you wil find all this is the doing of the divine energy we call god.

Ask yourself , everthing has to have a beginning then why doesn't universe have a beginning or an end?

2007-11-02 15:02:41 · answer #5 · answered by Akshay 2 · 0 0

God can only be sense through intuition or ones spiritual senses, if you expect proof to come though your materially focused regular senses, it will not happen. Meditate, do mind-body exercises, eat healthy food, and don't over indulge, and this should sharpen your spiritual senses. But even with them sharpened, you will not necessarily be able to believe, in the narrowly defined God of many traditional religions. You need to find the image or defintion of God that work for you. This one size fits all idea, does not work well when it comes to how we connect to God.

2007-11-02 14:46:49 · answer #6 · answered by astrogoodwin 7 · 0 0

It's up to you whether you listen to testimonies of People who have experienced Jesus and his love or not. For instance I didn't believe God loves me or wasn't sure if he was there, I asked Jesus to come live in my heart and change my life and rule and reign over my life, I asked him to help me know him and he has......and I have had many personal experiences with him since then. everthing starts with a testimony whether someone tells you there is a great sale going on at Walmart, so you go look for yourself, or this movie is really good, so you rent it. If someone says Jesus loves you, call on him and ask him to save you........and you don't ever do that then .........you missed out on the evidence because you didn't act on what you heard.

2007-11-02 14:40:18 · answer #7 · answered by sisterzeal 5 · 1 1

In facing questions like "Does god exist" it is important on the one hand to distinguish between "what has to exist" (sometimes called "necessity"), and what is "in need of an explanation" on the other hand. Somethings need an explanation while some things do not. For example, there is a formula for solving quadratic equations, which every high school student learns in algebra. On the other hand, first year students learn to prove that there are no integers, say "p" and "q", such that p divided by q equals the square root of 2. It follows from this that if god were to exist god could not find two such integers, either. This lack of a pair of integers is a necessary feature of algebra; that is to say, it is necessarily true once one discovers algebra. Does it make sense for someone say, "Well, do you have any evidence that there aren't integers, say "p" and "q", such that p divided by q equals the square root of 2?" Well, no, there is no "evidence." Indeed, it doesn't really make sense even to ask for evidence: the assertion that there are no such integers is true because it is necessary. This is a product of how one works through the questions arising from thinking algebraically.

We know, though, that there are lots of situations where asking for evidence, in other words asking for an explanation, makes good sense. Physics, chemistry, biology, botany and astronomy offer many good cases in point. It makes sense to ask, for example, "Why does the DNA in my mitochondria come only from my mother and not my father?" There is something very different about this question than the questions about algebra; biology questions, for example, seem to be the kind where providing evidence seems warranted. Physicists, too, are bent on providing explanations of this latter sort, and they are careful when they meet questions of the former sort not to confuse the two. So, for example, good physicists will happily assert that everything we see around us is subject to needing an explanation: people, trees, water, the solar system, galaxies, volcanic sand, bacteria, states of mind; all of these stand in reference to this latter sort of questioning: "Why are things this way and not some other way?" This happens in the Astronomy section of Y!A all the time. "Why is the sky blue", "What color are neutron stars," "Does the universe have an edge," "Why is the moon round," show up with astonishing regularity! So, why is the sky blue and not red? Why are all large solid bodies roughly spherical in shape? Why is the sun yellowish? Why is the solar system stable over long periods of time?

Moving on, care needs to be taken when lumping individual items together into systems and then asking questions about the whole system because not every attribute of a part of a system is an attribute of the whole system. Attributes of a planet, say, may or may not become an attribute of a solar system. It is not always clear how explaining the parts of a system explains the whole system. For example, no good physicist would assert that a wall made of small bricks was, therefore, a small wall; but it would still be a brick wall. A pile of $10.00 bills on a table isn't an "empty" pile when the money is spent. None of us would assert --except as a joke-- that the world is littered with empty piles of $10.00 dollar bills. So, it makes sense to ask "How did this pile of $10.00 dollar bills get here" without the answer being "Well, the pile was always here, it just has $10.00 dollar bills now, whereas before it was just an empty pile." The pile itself is susceptible to the same sort of questioning that the sky is, that the solar system is, that my DNA is. This, as will be seen in a moment, is the "god" question: what explains this pile of stars, galaxies, dust, dark matter and dark energy: the universe as a whole?

At each step in this process of asking questions we are asking for a set of reasons --sometimes those reason give evidence and sometime they do not-- which give us some explanation for what we see. When do we ever stop asking for an explanation or for evidence? When we cite reasons which are perforce necessary. For example, there is no equation from which one can derive the positions of the planets of our solar system. This is called, in the parlance of mathematicians, the "n-body" problem. If the solar system were composed of exactly two bodies which were themselves perfectly rigid spheres, and if they are reasonably small and at a great distance from each other, then there is such an equation which was derived by Newton. But when the number of bodies is greater than 2 then no such formula exists. There are *numeric* solutions generated by computers which can be quite good over long spans of time; but there is no general solution. No physicist searches for one; what's the point? Likewise, absolute zero is what it is. Occasionally on Y!A physics, one sees the question "can something get colder than absolute zero?" Asking that question makes clear that the person asking does not understand what "absolute zero" means, no why it follows from the way one thinks in the process of discovering physics. Both Absolute Zero and having no solution to the n-body problem are "necessary" features of physics. There is no going beyond them, it makes no sense to ask "What happens when you get colder than Absolute Zero?"

So, when one faces everything that physicists, biologists, psychologists, chemists, geologists and astronomers have discovered it does indeed make sense to ask, "Is there a reason for everything?" "What explains the universe as a whole?" One can, of course, choose not to face these questions, one can minimized these questions, one can dismiss these questions, but those are personal issues of integrity; yet as the discussion shows these questions still makes sense to ask; and to answer. So, what is the answer?

The answer to these questions is what Muslims, Jews, Christians, Taoists, Wiccans, and the like refer to when they use the term "god." As a consequence, there is no "evidence" for god, nor does god need further explanation. Quadratic equations have a general formula for their solution, the n-body problem is not solvable, light speed is absolute, god is the answer to a particular question and there is no "going beyond" these. There is no good way to answer the question, "Well, can you give me some evidence that there is no explicit formula for the n-body problem?" It follows from a whole way of thinking about algebra that it is so. The same is true for god. As I pointed out, god is the answer to, god follows from, a whole system of questioning.

HTH

Charles

2007-11-02 14:42:33 · answer #8 · answered by Charles 6 · 0 1

The following are all facts as we now know them:

Every effect has a cause
The universe didn't used to exist.
It exists now.
Something caused it to exist.
The causing agent had to be more powerful that all the energy in the universe.
We call that causing agent God.

The real question is: Is God an active part of your life?

2007-11-02 14:40:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Oh honey, there is proof! And it will change your life! I have been where you are, and there is something better. Try reading the book entitled, "When Critics Ask" It really will change you. Just give it a chance, what could it hurt!

2007-11-02 14:41:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Show me what black matter... or no better yet show me what air looks like. Because obviously seeing is believing or therefore it can't possibly exist.

2007-11-02 14:42:05 · answer #11 · answered by modrealist 2 · 1 0

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