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2007-11-02 02:37:56 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Someone ask where does it say that man cannot lie with man...
Answer: Romans 1st ch. and other places.

2007-11-02 03:03:37 · update #1

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A Practicing Christian Homosexual Minister is an Oxy-Moron, it is like saying "fried Ice".

You cannot be a born again Christian and be a practicing and un-repentant Homosexual.
That person is not saved.

Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against the created order of God. He created Adam and then made a woman. This is what God has ordained and it is what is right. Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:18ff). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.


If a by "practicing homosexual" is meant a person who is openly approving of homosexuality and is engaged in it, can this person be saved? Yes and no. Yes because any sinner has the potential of becoming saved. On the other hand, if the person is professing to be a Christian yet is unrepentantly practicing homosexuality, then it would appear that he would not be saved. 1 John 2:4 says, "The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." So, a homosexual can be saved, but once saved, the Spirit of God will move that person to repent of the sin of homosexuality. If a person continues to unrepentantly practice homosexuality, promoting it, etc., then that person would not be demonstrating evidence of regeneration.
But then again, a person could become saved, still fall into homosexuality, be convicted by the Spirit of the sin, all the while be seeking to break free from it. So technically, in this last sense, he could be saved and be a homosexual -- not as a life style, but as in struggling against his sin which sometimes can get the best of him. It would be like a drug addict becoming a Christian and still being hooked on drugs. He would struggle against and still have the desire to participate in it.
I would say that a person who has professed Christ and is struggling against sin is demonstrating evidence of regeneration. Remember, many people who become Christians still struggle with many of their old sins. Even Paul struggled, "For the good that I wish, I do not do; but I practice the very evil that I do not wish," (Rom. 7:19). We are not perfect and we must remember to be gracious to others, especially when they are stuck in an old sin, want to repent of it, and are trying to have victory over it. This is when grace is need, not law. But, of course, we are never to encourage or excuse a person's sin. We must pray for them to attain full victory.
Now, some Christians will state that once you become saved, you should automatically have victory over all your sins. This is an unfortunate burden they place on many Christians because "perfection" becomes the standard for measuring whether or not they are Christians. This can cause people to doubt their salvation. While it is true that we have victory in many areas when we become saved, it is also true that we still struggle with many of our old sins. Of course, it is never okay for us to go ahead and sin (Rom. 6:1-2). We must always struggle for holiness. But the fact is, like Paul, we sometimes do the things we don't want to do and don't do what we should. It is our struggle against sin that demonstrates that we are regenerate since we are seeking to be holy as God is holy (1 Pet. 1:16).
Finally, it is no dead people who struggle for life. Only those who are alive struggle. Likewise, the dead in sin, the unregenerate do not struggle against their sins. Christians do.

2007-11-02 02:43:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 6

Gee whiz. Why rehash this? Simply positioned - "there is not ample love on this planet." Why now not be given each and every man or woman as having a significance identical to all different folks. It is while folks situation themselves above others - for something rationale - that's if you have terrorists, Nazis, Republicans, and illiberal devout zealots of each and every stripe. Oh, and the Republican crack was once a comic story. I recognise that you just all don't seem to be illiberal.... Hey Hans, why can a girl lie with a females however now not a person? Oh, in view that the bible might on no account speak to a lady so it simplest supposed a person laying with a different guy. It is the Bible's exclusion of part the human race that are meant to be a signal to you that this is a bigoted file. But, bigots are not able to see that. Let's depend up the quantity of occasions Jesus condemned homosexuals or gay acts - uh, none - 0. The historic testomony is OLD. The new testomony is the brand new contract among God and guy and Jesus is the writer. He stated not anything in opposition to gay acts. If you're condemning homosexuals situated at the bible, you stand by myself getting ready to hell. Jesus stated deal with others the way in which you wish to be handled. Do you wish to be hated simply in view that you're you? Edit: Gee, seem what number of devout folks used the phrase "animals" to explain those folks. That is how killers justify their acts. First, dehumanize the sufferer. Then separate them from society, they kill them in view that they're extraordinary. Nazis did it. You men are meant to be devout. Do you relatively wish to move down that course once more?

2016-09-05 08:13:02 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I know many homosexuals who are repentant. They have repented of their sins. Homosexuality is not a sin, therefore, one can be an active homosexual and a Christian at the same time.

I've asked many times for one person to show me in the Bible, in the original languages of Greek or Hebrew, one single place where it says that a man shall not have sex with another man. The Bible has many places where it says not to have sex with your mother, your sister, and lots of other specific relations. It says this bluntly and without ambiguity.

It does NOT specifically and unambiguously say "A man shall not have sex with another man."

So, a person can be repentant, be an active homosexual, and serve god.

Who I would not want as a minister is a person who lives a lie, denies their sexuality, and claims to be able to teach someone how to live an authentic, moral and honest life with integrity.

2007-11-02 02:46:49 · answer #3 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 3 2

None. A Christian is one who is like Jesus--He loves everyone but hates sin. A Christian would need to rebuke someone who is doing things against what the Bible says. If someone does not mind that someone is in sin, I don't think they could be considered a Christian--a disciple or follower of Christ. Same goes for any sin or relationship that is not scriptural.

2007-11-02 02:44:32 · answer #4 · answered by Daniel K 3 · 2 2

I'm confused, why would a christian mind this? If they did surely that would be being judgmental and that is supposed to be God's job only and surely that's a a sin - It seems to me that some Christians are highly hypocritical.

2007-11-02 03:07:09 · answer #5 · answered by Miss T Rious 4 · 0 1

Wouldn't want an unrepentant anything (adulterer, drunkard, liar, thief, etc.) being my minister. Our pastor often lets us know that he is preaching to himself as well as to us. He reminds us that he is not perfect or that would make him God. But he also knows that we look to him for guidance and direction. How can he/she tell me to flee from all manner of sin if he/she is not willing to do that as well. If my pastor admitted that he were homosexual, but refused to live that lifestyle and fought his desires and urges, then that would be a different matter altogether. That would be an example that I could look up to and respect. We all have our cross to bear.

2007-11-02 02:45:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Your obvious key word is 'unrepentant.' We all sin but if a minister (or any Christian for that matter) insist on living in ANY sinful situation, it needs to be addressed by a Christian brother or sister and, if necessary, the church leadership and the church as a whole, eventually.

2007-11-02 02:43:21 · answer #7 · answered by starfishltd 5 · 5 3

So long as he or she is not the minister of a Christian church I wouldn't mind.

If it was a Christian church and they are still there it is no longer a Christian Church.

2007-11-02 03:07:20 · answer #8 · answered by Carl W 4 · 0 0

You mean like Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury?

2007-11-02 02:47:10 · answer #9 · answered by Lucid Interrogator 5 · 1 2

Looks like there's at least some new recruits for the Westboro Baptist Church here.

2007-11-02 02:47:02 · answer #10 · answered by chris m 5 · 3 1

If he were open and honest about it, I wouldn't mind. It's not up to me to judge his life and we ALL sin. Being homosexual is an abomination, not a mortal sin anyway and at least I would know I had an honest minister that wasn't afraid to admit that he is as human as the rest of us.

2007-11-02 02:42:08 · answer #11 · answered by wellbeing 5 · 1 5

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