Christians , Christians , Contradictions ...Ooops!?

Question

Justify this!

Jesus descended from which son of David?

Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke3:31)

I wanna you justify your claim that holy bible is true word of god!

Answer 1

Two geneologies. The Bible contains the words of God but it was actually written by men, and rewritten several times at that. A couple of good books I'd suggest are Keepers of the Keys by Nicholas Cheetum, and Christianity: A Global History by David Chidester. One can see the changes in doctrines and teachings that have been made throughout history. The Bible is only a portion of scriptures that were voted upon by men to be compiled together into one cannon or universal book. Along with the rewritten accounts by men like Marcion, Justin, and Valentinus, it contains some original truths, but many have been lost throughout the ages, and because of these changes, the Bible contains SOME of the words of God but it also contains the errors of men who added their own interpretations, theories, and traditions. Many important scriptures were thrown out, and the Bible lists some of these lost or missing scriptures: book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14); the book of Jasher (Josh. 10:13); book of the Acts of Solomon (1 Kings 11:41); book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29:29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29:29) . . . and many others are also listed. Many Christians believe they are saved by their belief only, and that works don't matter. But if you really study the teachings of Christ, you'll find that this contradicts everything else he taught, so there must be something missing there. It's too easy to just believe; that is a broad path with a wide gate, not the straight and narrow road with few that travel it. We're only forgiven of our sins if we no longer do them:

(Hebrews 10:26 for if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
Romans 3:25 Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

So, while the Bible does contain SOME of the words of God, it by itself, is NOT the pure word of God because it has been tampered with, changed, rewritten, and defiled by men throughout the ages. Therefore, pure truth has been lost to mankind. There are many Christian scholars who have discovered this as you'll see if you watch shows on this topic on the History Channel, A & E, or Discovery. Sorry this is so long, and I'm not asking you to agree, and I'm not trying to put down Christianity (I'm still a Christian), but am merely sharing the information I have discovered in my search for God. By the way, Revelation 22:18-19 already happened; scriptures were rewritten, changed, and voted upon, and many were discarded when men chose what was to be included in the Bible.

Kind of puffed up with pride yourself, aren't you Fuzzy? Not very Christian-like if you ask me. And the Bible is full of contradictions, many people just can't see them because they want to believe what THEY want. People don't want God telling them what to do with their life. They want to believe what THEY want; worship how THEY want; have made religion into what THEY want it to be.

Answer 2

These are two genealogies. It is suggested that one represents the royal lineage of Christ and the other represents the His priestly lineage.
It is not entirely clear whether one is specifically Mary's family and one is the family of Joseph.
But there has also been some thought that perhaps it follows Joseph and perhaps Joseph had an adoptive father also. (As would be his role to Jesus)
It would be typical to follow the lineage of the father in a patriarchal society regardless of direct blood line. For example if you have only two parents you still have 2 geneologies. More if you have an adoptive father or mother or there has been a split in your family.
Remember the Bible makes the claim (and I believe it) that Jesus was born to a virgin.
No contradiction here... most seeming contradictions of the Bible institute an extremely narrow and close minded point of view, as does this one.

Answer 3

Your intelligence is so hanging out for all to see how truly incompetent your knowledge and understanding is about which you speak so authoritatively.

Matthew's genealogy, if you check, is through Joseph.

Luke's is through Mary's. The proof is in the pudding.
"as the opinion was, of Joseph, " verse 23.

The Bible rarely included the female side, the mother's side, of the genealogy, however, in this case is was a must!

Because Jesus was not the son of Joseph the line of Mary had to be supplied. Thus we are told that God arranged it so that Jesus both through his mother, fleshly mother, and Joseph, his adoptive father, Jesus would have genealogy leading to David.

He had to be of David's descent to inherit the right to David's throne.

Stuff that down you gullet and don't come back unless you can make sense or can ask questions about what you don't understand respectfully.

These self proclaimed Bible critics that do not try to make sense of things end up not making sense at all.

Answer 4

Poor Luke. He was only trying, from an outsider's point of view (remember, he was NOT Jewish), to give versimilitude to Christ. Probably had a lot of smarmy atheists to deal with, rather like a lot of Christians today.

Nathan was David's prophet, NOT his son. But, not having Google to dig up the facts, poor Luke did the best he could.

Listen to Matthew, a Jew with an education in his people's history, customs, politics and faith. Not that it matters. Who cares about Joseph's bloodline?

Now if either of these otherwise godly, intelligent men had been less chauvinistic they'da realized that the paternity of Jesus CANNOT be traced to David or any other human male. They shoulda researched MARY'S bloodline! Hers is the only possible genetic connection between Christ and David, or anyone else in the history of mankind.

And for those who said that Matthew's bloodline was Mary's, you're NOT reading Matthew 1:16. I repeat it verbatim here:

"Jacob, the father of JOSEPH, the husband of Mary. Of her was born Jesus who is called the Messiah."

By the way, this is one of the scholar's proofs that Matthew was written VERY early on in the Church. It took the scholars in the early Church less than a century to figure out that if He had both parents as humans, Jesus could NOT be God the Son. Yet here, Matthew seems to indicate that Joseph is Jesus's genetic father. Hmmmmm....you people need to do some more studying. Or convert to Mormonism.

Answer 5

Even though these are, as others have said, tracing Jesus to David through both parents, I find it highly unlikely these geneologies are valid, especially given that Joseph is believed to have been a Greek Jew whose family was removed during the diaspora. Additionally, Jesus was not supposed to have had Joseph's blood so that tracing his heritage through the father seems like a contradiction itself, doesn't it?More likely that in order to claim Jesus as the Messiah the early church wanted to connect him to King David, and also to fit the prophecy "there shall come forth a rod out of Jesse."

That said, I fail to see why it matters to Christianity as a whole. I do not need to have every little thing be inerrant in order to find truth in Jesus.

Answer 6

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You misinterpret the name Jesse in Mathew 1:6 including the word son of David in Luke 3:31. Jesse is not Jesus
Christ. nor the son of David in Luke 3:31. study the bible very wellThere is no contradiction if you can only understand the words of God in the bible.
jtm

Answer 7

my friend i have a very long answer for you, but i'll keep it short.

jesus is the son of david the father of king solomon ans nathan, the reason is because of the royalty he inherited from king david.
although it was known before hand that he will come.

it like us in christianity when i bring somebody to god i call them my kids in spirit and they are not my kinds.

you would understand this if your thoughts were inspired by god.

Answer 8

First of all, in Matthew, It starts off from abraham. Remember when God, promised Abraham, that the seed will come through him. Then during the reign of David, the king, God told him that Jesus will be the son of David. It didn't mean literally, but that Jesus will come through David's linealige.
also in Matthew, it says Abraham became father to Isaac, and Isaac became father to Jaocb and etc.

In Luke, it dosen't start of with Abraham, but the opposite. It starts of from Joseph, who was the son of Heli, who was the son of Matthat, and etc.

So when you reach to Soloman and Nathan, it wouldn't contradict. There is no contradiction.

If I didn't answer your question, let me know.

Answer 9

One is the genealogy of Mary and one is of Joseph.

It is thought that Matthew gave Joseph's genealogy because it was not accepted to give the genealogy of the woman. But Luke did, because in reality, the line that fulfilled the prophecy of the Messiah coming from the line of David, was through Mary.

Answer 10

Suzanne has it dead on, Most only think of Joseph being in line, but you forget about Mary. A women's gemological was not very popular at the time. Like it or not, there are no contradictions in the bible.