If U DO NOT BELIEVE we humans have environmental duties & responsibilities,what reasons can U give in defence?

Question

If you DO NOT BELIEVE we humans have environmental duties & responsibilities, what reasons or reasoning can you give in defence of your stance?

I really don't like people who are routinely nasty or ugly to the Q-askers or other answerers.

Please report such behaviors when you see it.

I asked my Q in two ways. One way in this Q and another way in a separate Q. Each Q is addressed to different environmental positions in a neutral and respectful manner.

A Q is not an argument but a request for arguments and reasons in support of a position. To characterize--to badly mischaracterize --my Q's because you have a personal agenda or view in an attempt to sabotage the Q&A discourse is plainly an ad hominem pollution of that discourse. Smart people can see behind such nasty behaviors.

This is an example of an Answerer who has posted "nothing more than an attempt to silence people with different views." That person said"What a bogus argument. Just because you do not believe that man is causing "global warming", then you must be for polluting the world, right?"

Do you think others are this dumb to fall for this specious argument?

I referred to this person as one who seeks to *pollute* the discourse put in motion by my Q. " So many of you are careless readers and some are painly demagogic on environmental matters.

Perma is a smart lady. She has proposed:"Lets work together on Environmental issues regardless of your stance on Global Warming."
I have an educated stance based on my knowledge &uderstanding of the thermodynamics (heat flows), the mass flows & the energy flows of the planet Earth. I'm tired of the undereducated people who dispute that understanding based on irrelevant non-scientific, social, political, economic, religious & ideological grounds.I vehemently oppose the ignorants posting crapola and calling me or anyone they disagree with, insulting names or misstating my position on environmental issues & problems. My 2 info-seeking Q's, which were directed to different crowds, were neutrally worded until the slime & his or her ilk showed up to trash my Q's. I.ve had enough of these ignorant, stupid demagogues. You can trust me & Gore or you can trust the Jello's of this world. Who to believe is each person's decision. Pick wisely. Especially if you have or expect to have descendants.

Last I looked: Science is neither liberal or conservative, democratic or republican. Are you all members of the mediocre, ignorant, undereducated ,incompetent, arrogant & stubborn, confrontational, in-your-face Bush43/Cheney fan Club?

Answer 1

I will answer your other question as a 'believer'. I just wanted to add a few points to this 'discussion' . Just to be very transparent on this too I consider that Global Warming is real and that we, mankind, are most likely to be the cause of it.

Environmental issues are much much wider than those 'associated with global warming'. I see absolutely no reason why people who are not convinced by the Global Warming evidence (skeptics) can not be interested in environmental issues. They can and should, it is all of our responsibility.

Even when people are committed 'believers' that we have environmental duties and responsibilities, there are still widely varying views within that group. For example I am a Permaculturist, a fellow Permie has broadly the same views. However, when we get down to details, on some things we differ widely. Our views are not exactly the same, nor do they have to be, both views are valid but different.

Lets work together on Environmental issues regardless of your stance on Global Warming. There is other indisputable evidence of damage that mankind is doing to the environment. We depend on that environment to live. It is the responsibility of all of us. We have only one Earth.

Answer 2

I must be stupid and blind ,but having checked the question several times ,i cannot find any references to Global warming ,is this stuck in the minds of the deluded answerers such as jello ,everybody answers as if this was a global warming question ,and all it asks, is about environmental attitudes .You people are obsessed with Global Warming and use skepticism as a lever to continue Environmental destructive practices.

It makes one wonder what is a bigger threat ,¿¿¿

If one is a transient Alien ,who is here only for a limited time ,before they go back to other planets,can it be understood WHY somebody does not feel they have a stake in looking after the Environment and behaving responsibly with our Natural resources.

Everybody else literally owes their lives to this planet and the conditions that prevail,AND SO SHOULD RESPECT AND NURSE our natural wealth so that we as a specie can continue to benefit and continue our existence .

I know its a ridiculous idea ,but some people actually think like that .

And if everybody had followed the 10 commandments (and hardly any body does)we would be a thousand times worse off ,name me one ecological principle in the 10 .there is not one ,where does it say don`t pollute,save water ,recycle,

If any thing Christian countries are notorious for being callous with Nature and treat animals like dirt,they are amongst Natures biggest enemies ,thinking they own it and are allowed to destroy it .Arrogantly assuming that their extraterrestrial supposed god had the right to give it to them ,ignoring the fact that Gaia is a real God, billions of years older than their invention.

Answer 3

If we have a duty in regards to global warming, it would be to do the only thing that would make a major change - go to all nuclear power. Changing a few light bulbs will only slow the growth of CO2 emissions. Most of the people talking about global warming are not willing to go nuclear. They are not really serious.

Answer 4

Why do global warming believers feel that they need to muzzle people who don't agree with them?

I see nothing offensive about the Dr.'s comments.

This is nothing more than an attempt to silence people with different views.

You should be the one reported!

Added: No- Your question was clear. If you're not getting the answers you think you should, then the question is worded poorly. Maybe it's your weakness of the English language, maybe it the premise of your views on global warming.

Clearly you believe in man made global warming and are asking here for people who don't accept this theory to explain why they want to continue to pollute.

If I were you, I would withdraw the question.

Answer 5

I DO believe that humans have "environmental duties." But I will not defend, I will explain what I believe. I believe that as biologically advanced, intelligent lifeforms, it is our responsibility to behave as stewards of the planet's resources. This means trying to live a sustainable lifestyle and being an active participant (physically and/or financially) in things like restoration. For instance: human-related climate change is a hot topic here, but many have such strong opinions that they rely on name-calling and suspect sites to promote their cause. They haven't fully done their homework, because if they did, they would be more prepared to put forth their argument in a solid manner.

Heeltap, turn the other cheek to those who insult or use names. Adopting the "sticks and stones" approach and a thicker skin is a must here, it seems, as a lot of respondants didn't learn the golden rule, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." The silence here would be deafening if that maxim were followed, wouldn't it?

Answer 6

I entered the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1986 as a naive, baseball-playing kid from suburban Minneapolis.

In 1990, I emerged an environ-mental who separated his trash meticulously and picked fights with people who I thought wasted water in public restrooms. I sneered at people who drove the wrong car, had the wrong-sized family or who purchased items housed in the wrong packaging. I read Ehrlich and Foreman, rode my bike to work and hiked religiously. A la John Muir, I even foolishly climbed trees during windstorms and clung to them in an attempt to feel what they felt.

I moved to Seattle to be closer to my mother (nature, that is), flipping off lumber trucks along the way. Upon arriving, I became active in the local chapter of the Sierra Club. This is when I grew up.

While I had to earn a living, the vast majority of the participants were trust-funders who didn't. Ironically, a few of the higher-ups in the organization bragged about being heirs to the Weyerhauser fortune. These same people would load up their Subaru wagons and head to the mountains to protest the paper industry's clear-cutting practices!

This "Watermelon" phase of my life (green on the outside, red in the middle) lasted until the age of 25. It was then that I woke up and realized that life in this great country was passing me by. I am now 39, with a wife and two boys, and back in suburban Minneapolis.

Many of my friends, through school and work, have been through the same sort of transformation.

My point? Regardless the indoctrination we receive in school, the bulk of us will fall back on what we know is right. Liberalism is the disease, the real world is the cure.

Good luck to you.

Answer 7

It sounds like you have fallen for the propaganda that CO2 is a pollutant. If all of the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Oceans could be taken out overnight, all higher forms of life on Earth would be dead within a few years. Have not you read the latest studies that indicate Koolaid is not a healthy drink for adults?

Answer 8

I also agree with the Doctor on this. Too often people who believe in man made global warming associate people who don't agree with their views as polluters.

This isn't the case. It is possible to desire a clean environment while not accepting the doom and gloom of Al Gore and his anti business agenda.

Answer 9

I’m with Dr Jello on this.

Just because I don’t accept the unfounded nonsense that the Global Warming Alarmists (GWAs) spout, I must be someone who doesn’t care about the environment?

Rubbish.

I don’t think we have anything to worry about regarding global warming, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think we should conserve and move to more sustainable forms of energy.

I myself have solar panels on my roof to help heat my hot water, which is an awful lot more than most (I accept not all) GWAs have done.

I’m as environmentally friendly as the next person – just not as gullible.

Answer 10

What a bogus argument. Just because you do not believe that man is causing "global warming", then you must be for polluting the world, right?

Do you think others are this dumb to fall for this specious argument?