Sony has removed PS2 Backwards Compatibility from the 40GB PS3 model.?

Question

They may also remove BC from other models as time goes on,
How does this make you feel, and will it affect your decision on buying a PS3 in the future, knowing that if your PS2 dies, you won't be able to play your PS2 games on your PS3.

Sony have removed the actual Hardware, required for BC.

this doesn't mean it can't be done, but Sony should have had this all worked out before they released the console.

The Cell BE Proecssor is more then capable of running an Emulato and the RSX is more then capable of outputting PS2 graphiscs, Sony knows the hardware in and out so creating software that converts the Hardware function calls into language that the Cell BE and PS3 OS actually understand, is not hard, look at the developers of PCSX2 for example, there has already been some preliminary success in getting that to work on Linux running on PS3, so the Fact Sony has not sorted this out is pure indicationg of thier lazy unwillingness to support the gamers who support them.

the price drop is neglible, it costs 20US to create and implement the required chips and this is hardly a big increase.

also, only an ignorant person would believe that we would all just stop playing PS2 games because we have a PS3,

theres alot more to games then how they control and their graphics.

Eddy obviously missed]
"How does this make you feel, and will it affect your decision on buying a PS3 in the future, knowing that if your PS2 dies, you won't be able to play your PS2 games on your PS3."

The PS3 80Gb model uses Half Hardware, Half Software emulation as it contains the GS (Graphics Synthesizer) but not the EE (Emotion Engine)

Also, PAL regions WILL NOT GET THE 80GB MODEL.

once 60GB stocks have sold out, PAL Regions will no longer be able to buy a BC capable PS3

from what i gathered of the BluRay spec, the BluRay HD features are disabled if a compatible HDTV is not present, this is a protection method known as tiltbits to prevent piracy, movies should still play, but only in Standard definition.

R'n'D, do your research before opening your dumb mouth, the information about PAL not getting 80GB models is all other the web.
Read
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=No+80GB+PS3+for+PAL+regions&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVFC,DVFC:1970--2,DVFC:en


and you obviously know nothing of the BluRay spec.

of course games will work on it, they aren't protected in the same way Movies are.
Any Bluray movie you play on your crappy old tv is output in Standard Definition, Full definition is only output on HDTV's, infact, your not even gettign the full quality of your PS3 games without a HDTV as they are rendered in 480i, instead of 1080p same as movies.

next time, do some research, before opening your mouth, then you won't put your foot in it.

oh and btw, tool, i don't even own a 360, i won't even consider getting one of those POS till they fix the high failure rate.

where are you from anyway, it better not be america, im sick of talking with ignorant yanks who couldn't tell Auckland apart from Wellington.

Answer 1

Honestly, this decision from Sony was the final straw for me, and I'll not buy a PS3 ever.

I have a PS2. I didn't have a PS1. I used the BC on the PS2 a lot, even as recently as last year, picking up all three Resident Evils. BC in the PS2 was a major reason I ponied up for it on Day 1. I wanted to play games like Parasite Eve and Xenogears, which I had drooled over for years, but couldn't justify buying a second system of the same generation for.

Now I have a fairly sizable PS2 collection. Something like 25 games. What happens when my PS2 dies? And I know it will. Almost everyone who bought a PS2 and used it for more than just DVD playback is on at least their second. I'm on my third.

I still play PS2 regularly, putting in about 10 hours a week on Samurai Warriors 2 alone, trying to max out all the characters. Plus occasional romps in over games like Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and Kill.Switch. I can't imagine just giving up on those games because of hardware failure.

And I'm not going to pay $400 for a game system that will likely be $250-300 by the end of next year.

Answer 2

Well since Microsoft's backwards capability has always been software emulated and not hardware for the 360 what's the difference. THe ps3 80 gig uses software emulation for backward capability just like the 360. How does it make 360 owners feel if there regular xbox dies? Anyway there is a higher percentage of backwards capability for the 80 gig then there is for the 360. And unlike the 360 Sony is actually adding more games that are backwards capable everyday. Microsof is too busy dealing with the 360 hardware failures to focus on anything else.

The 40 gig ps3 is like the core or arcade version of the 360 except the core and arcade version of 360 doesn't have a harddrive.

Your research is bogus because, not only do we play hd blueray ps3 games on the ps3 using a 20 year old tv we also watch hd blueray movies using the ps3 hooked up to the 20 year old TV. Why do we buy blueray and not have the ps3 hooked up to a hd tv. well the blueray hd movie discs have much more extras on them and alll ps3 games are on blueray. We also have an hdtv and have it hook it up there as well. One set of cables the old avi are run to the regular tv in the other room while at the same time the hdmi cord is hooked up to the main hdtdv. So when the main hdtv is being used for other things we play on the old tv without having to move the system.. Oh that's right you can't do things like that with the 360 so you wouldn't understand.

Interesting about the 80gig not being pal because that's where it was supposed to be released first along with the 40gig.

Do you work for Microsoft? because you sound like you are just creating rumors to slow the momentum of the ps3 sales which are booming.

Answer 3

I do not need BC. As I still owned a PS2 but from my experience when PS2 is bought. I never played PS1 games in it before therefore I would think I will not use this BC features. So it does not affect me so long it can perform about the same as what PS3 should be. I am also waiting for the special satin silver which is said to be available only for 40GB model, most important is that it will be a matte finish. I am reluntant to buy a PS3 even till now after hearing ppl keep posting about the scratches and dust on their PS3. Makes me thinking are we slave to it to keep it clean and mint?? I shall wait for this release..

Answer 4

I already bought PS3 - 60GB NTSC (I live in one of discriminated PAL regions - PAL 60GB console costs more and have less functions, so I've decided to buy NTSC through friends). I understand, that a lot of people are disappointed. The reason for that (imho) is another Sony's move in console's war - to make it even cheaper, on wholesale scale removal of remaining chip, 2 USBs and card reader had saved Sony millions and gave them ability to reduce prices. You've mentioned that Cell is able to replace both chips easely, I agree, but that's probably another marketing move by Sony (although may be in the future Sony'll release something like that). We have similar issue with playng Blu-ray movies on regular TVs - this function is locked (probably Sony wants to boost Bravia HDTV sales with this wicked move). Sony officials mentioned that corporation shifts it's attention from PS2 to PS3, well it had to happen someday, but (imho) Sony had to do it AFTER releasing a lot of PS3 games, now there aren't too many of them, most of PS3 games are cross platform ones, not a lot of good exclusives.
But, to be honest with you, I don't really play PS2 games (a bit of Max Payne from time to time - nostalgia and nothing more).
In conclusion: corporations fight, customers pay for that fighting. More PS3 owners - more games will come (and faster).

Answer 5

Im glad I have a 60 gig one..I love BC.
I heard the 80 gig one has BC but its like the 360 where they have to emulate it so some games look like crap, missing shadows and dont play correctly. You never no, if there is a high demand for BC...Sony could bring it back.

Answer 6

For me, it's OK. Nothing to worry about.
I think if someone have had PS3, they will rarely play PS2 games. Even they still want to play it, i am sure they also have PS2.
Beside, who is happy when the price of PS3 is being cut? WE ARE.

Answer 7

Yes to lower cost, not wise move, because is gonna hurt ps2 sales, is already hurting.

Answer 8

yes