lied at meps?

Question

I'm in the DEP, if i tell my recruiter the truth, whats gonna happen, do i get a dishonorable discharge or can they go back and fix it?

Delayed Entry Program

its a medical problem that needs to be reviewed by their doctor.

Answer 1

You can't get discharged from the military because you are not in the military. You can be kicked out of DEP, it all depends on how they feel about the situation, BUT if you don't come clean now you will get caught for something that could get you kicked out of the military when the discover it. This should probably happen in boot camp. Tell the truth now, get a medical waiver and do things the right way instead of trying to hide it. Guaranteed you will get caught at boot camp and look pretty stupid on your bus ride back home to your mommy. Medical waivers are common, tell the truth before it is too late.

Answer 2

Actually, under DEP and even if you went to basic you can be separated without a discharge during the first 180 days of service. This is frequently done. They often list it as failure to conform or for the good of the service, but it is just listed as separated, there is no discharge, because that would indicate some level of benefits if it was anything besides dishonorable and would cause problems your whole life if it was dishonorable.

I had several soldiers assigned to me that I had to separate for different reasons.

But in many cases the best thing is to go to your recruiter and come clean, have the record corrected. Most recruiters know how to make things work out for you.

Answer 3

Why do people have so much trouble with this. The military does not at any point go looking for your medical records. They know only what you tell them & nothing more, ever. You have a lot of privacy rights. You didn't tell them before, & you're on contract now, so why would you tell them now? What they'll do is cancel your contract, do a new medical check at MEPS, then if it's a problem you'll need a waiver that takes time & then another check at MEPS. Or you could get on with life, whatever. I'm not telling you to lie, you already did that, but the staff at MEPS are not your friends. They are there specifically to disqualify you before the military spends money on someone that shouldn't be there. If you know you are medically fit, then just go to training & do your job.

Answer 4

DO NOT take the Oath of enlistnment if you knowingly lied to a recruiter! If you do, you can be subject to article 83 (Fraudulent Enlistment) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Article 83 - Fraudulent enlistment, appointment, or separation

Text.

“Any person who—

(1) procures his own enlistment or appointment in the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his qualifications for that enlistment or appointment and receives pay or allowances thereunder; or

(2) procures his own separation from the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his eligibility for that separation;

shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Elements.

(1) Fraudulent enlistment or appointment.


(a) That the accused was enlisted or appointed in an armed force;

(b) That the accused knowingly misrepresented or deliberately concealed a certain material fact or facts regarding qualifications of the accused for enlistment or appointment;

(c) That the accused’s enlistment or appointment was obtained or procured by that knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment; and

(d) That under this enlistment or appointment that accused received pay or allowances or both.

(2) Fraudulent separation.


(a) That the accused was separated from an armed force;

(b) That the accused knowingly misrepresented or deliberately concealed a certain material fact or facts about the accused’s eligibility for separation; and

(c) That the accused’s separation was obtained or procured by that knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment.


As it stands now (if you are indeed still in the DEP system) you haven't violated Article 83 yet. But you MUST TELL either the recruiter or someone in authority at MEPS about the lie and deal with it before you actually take the oath of enlistment. After that, it will be too late and they will prosecute you.

Answer 5

What exactly did you lie to the recruiter about? The military really cannot court-martial you while in the DEP since you are not on active duty. All that they can do is cancel the contract in between you and the government.

Answer 6

Epilepsy,HIV, color blind, poor eyesight, or any major illness that would make you not fit for full duty nothing. Also everybody lies to their recruiter and he recruiter lies to the
recruit..it goes back and forth. He doesn't want to lose you so be honest and ask him what's going to happen for example it's drugs in your urine. They are so understaffed it has to be really serious because they are so desperate they will take anybody now. Don't worry if you haven't gone to bootcamp on the basis of a medical problem you never served and the contract is trashed.

Answer 7

You don't want a guilty conscience so tell the recruiter the truth. Don't worry about a discharge because you are not eligible.

What did you lie about? When are you goint to bootcamp?

Answer 8

Delayed Enlistment Program - depends what the lie is regarding.

Answer 9

Despite SuperN's answer, you ARE technically in the military now. Your DEP time counts towards your 8 year committment to whatever time you will have left in the Inactive Reserve.

Anyways, you will likely not be punished, but I guarentee, you will get in MUCH bigger trouble if you don't fess up now. If you lie at MEPS and don't fess up to it, you can kiss any clearance goodbye, and a lot of good MOS's with it.

Answer 10

You're not technically even in the military until you complete boot camp. Chances are if they discover the lie, you'll just be released from your contract without penalty. How severe the action really depends a lot on what you lied about. If it's something that they never need to know about, I'd just keep it to myself.