Matthew 24:3- Does this verse support the idea that Jesus returned invisibly ib 1914?

Answer 1

Just the opposite, lets compare with Acts 1:

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? - Matthew 24:3.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. - Acts 1:6,7.

The disciples repeatedly asked Jesus to set dates for His coming, but Jesus was most unwilling; rather He insisted again in the same chapter Matthew 24:

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. - Matthew 24:36.

Answer 2

I suppose you are referring to how one imposes a date like 1914 on the text, as well as imposing a false interpretation to the forewarning about false prophets and false "Christs", in verses 23-25. If so, anyone who holds to a gnostic heretical belief (That is, those who see the spirit of man as at least of greater value than the physical body. But doesn't it say in the creation account of the book of Genesis that, "God saw everything He had made. And it was very good"?), which includes all conditional immortalists and annihilationists, may conveniently read into the text that a physically present figure claiming to be the Messiah would be a tip off that they are liars. This is clearly two of the most common interpretative errors of imposing one's tenant on a text of literature, as well as text proofing. These aforementioned folks readily use these errors, cutting verses out of their context in order to "prove" any of their false presuppositions and spurious doctrines. As for this text, the gist of all that Jesus was saying here was about the end times, not just about false prophets to come! This topic of discussion Jesus had with His disciples started back in verse 3, when his disciples were asking Him about what the end times would be like. And, it then begins to conclude and culminate in verses 30 and 31, where we find Jesus saying "...they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky"(verse 30b), as well as about forecasting the end times, in verse 36, "...no one knows about that day or hour. Not even the angels in heaven know. The Son does not know. Only the Father knows." And if Jesus didn't know when He still was active in His earthly ministry, how are we to know?

So, I ask you, how can anyone with any Biblical integrity not interpret the context aright concerning these texts as a visible, tangible, and corporeal existence of His return, as well as an implicit prohibition by Jesus for setting any specific dates about His second coming? I just don't get it. Do you?

Answer 3

SATAN'S SHORT TIME DOWN AS JESUS IS RAISING UP HIS HEAVENLY?

Matt.24:3 [ end of the world ], 7 [ after major wars ], 14 [ after it is made known that Jesus second coming brings his kingdom rule ], 15 [ after Daniel's end time prophecy ], 21 [ end time tribulations ] 34 [ generation a father, son [ and all fulfilled in his life ], and son has the job ], 36-38 [ God alone knows the day & hour, but the years can be known 1Thes.4:15-17 [ these are at the last ]; 1Thes.5:1-9,21 [ To children of the light of times and seasons, Jesus does not come as a thief in the night ];

Jude 9; Michael in Dan.12:1-13 [ THE TIME OF THE END ]; at Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; SATAN IS CAST DOWN TO HAVE A SHORT TIME IN TIME OF END.
Matt.22:42-44; Acts 2:27-35; Heb.1:1-13; Rom.16:20; Enemies under feet of the heavenly, God said,"Sit thou on my right hand until enemies are thy footstool." John 39.40.44; I will raise him up at the last day, 14:3; A place is prepared when Satan is down. Mark 13:27; 1Thes.4:15-17; The heavenly.

1. What is the short time for Satan in the time of the end?
2. How long is the pit open for Satan, and the sealed of God waiting?
3. Did Satan and 1/3 angels get cast out of heaven in the year 5980?
4. Were they cast out of heaven after Babylon Empire #3, at 2520 years?
5. Was Babylon world Empire #3, 606 before Christ in Rome Empire #6?
6. At year 3460, did Daniel prophecy the time of the end, 606 Before Christ?
7. Were they cast out of heaven after Rome world Empire #6, 1914 C. E.?
8. How long after the heavenly begans to collect, until they come down out of heaven from God? Gal.4:26; Heb.12:22-24; Rev.3:12; 20:1-6, 12, 13; 21:1-5;
9. When do religions have their rapture? Where is Satan?

DOES DANIEL REALLY TELL THE WHOLE WORLD?

[ Year 3460, 1804 years after flood, 907 years after Moses dies, no 420 year old temple built by Solomon ], Solomon dead 391 years, no king, the Promised Land is desolate, all captive to Babylon world Empire #3, 606 before Christ is in Rome world Empire #6, THERE WILL BE NO KING UNTIL JESUS AT HIS SECOND COMING AFTER SATAN'S TIME OF THE END

Daniel year 3460 [ Babylon world Empire #3, Rome world Empire #6 ]:
Daniel gives;
2300, 2500, 2520, 2580, 2670 [ now 2613 from Empire #3 ], less 606 B. C.
1694, 1894, 1914, 1974, 2064 [ now 2007 from Empire #6 ]. Plus 606 B. C.
1611 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ after Christ.
2217 ------------------------------------ is 1611, PUBLISHED BIBLE IN WORLD.
2300 [ 1150, 1250, 1260, 1290, 1335, twice Dan.25:7 ]; bible in circulation.
2500 bible and Michael Dan.12:1-12; Jude 9; protects WORD, 2Cor.4:3,4;
2520 Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; Satan's short time in the time of the end at WW1.
______ Rev.13:1-10 WW1; 11-18; 334 years bible WW2 & holocaust, 1945.
_____ Rev.9:1-5 [5x 30 = 150 ];Pit open for Satan, God's sealed are there.
2580 Satan's short time, 60 years + Michael & WORD 363 years, Vietnam.
_____ 380 bible, Rev.9:12-16 [ 391 Ez.4:6 ]; 16:12-16 [ Euphrates area ] 396, _____ years bible at 2007 C.E.
2613 Satan's short time of 93 years + Michael & WORD. Rm.16:20; Mk 13:27;
------- Satan down, heavenly raised up John 6:39,40,44; 1Thes.4:15-17; end.
____ 6130 and Rev.20:1-6,12,13; no Satan 1000 years SAVED at 7130 years

Answer 4

He did and He still does today. Do u not believe in miracles?

Answer 5

Yes.

The parable of the faithful and discreet slave helps bible students to recognize that it was only after Christ's "return" that one "slave" would receive unique privileges. Jehovah's Witnesses look at the evidence and believe that happened soon after 1914.

(Matthew 24:45-47) Who really is the faithful and discreet slave [class] whom his master [Jesus] appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.


Regarding 1914, the Scriptures do show that Jesus sat on the throne of the Messianic Kingship that year. In hindsight, most of humankind can see the historic upheaval that began with World War I. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that mankind in general has seen a wide range of specific signs since 1914, and that anyone can perceive these as significant without even opening a bible.

Yet the bible DOES comment upon it! Jesus foretold this specific collection of signs as evidence that his "presence" or so-called 'second coming' had arrived. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that "presence" to be Jesus' presence as the King of God's Kingdom. Citations are from both New World Translation (NWT) and Youngs Literal Translation (YLT).

(Matthew 24:3, NWT) disciples approached [Jesus] privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence
(Matthew 24:3, YLT) the disciples came near to [Jesus], saying, 'Tell us, when shall these be? and what is the sign of thy presence...?

(Luke 21:7,24, NWT) Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?
(Luke 21:7,24, YLT) Teacher, when, then, shall these things be? and what is the sign when these things may be about to happen?'

Amazingly, since the 1870's, Jehovah's Witnesses had recognized 1914 as a significant year according to the chronology indicated in bible prophecy. Decades before 1914, Witnesses noted that Jesus' discussion of his second "coming", or second "presence" specifically mentions "the appointed times of the nations", which Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be a centuries-long period of relative godlessness when God's rulership through the Davidic kingship was interrupted (the line of hereditary kings beginning with King David of Israel). Jehovah's Witnesses recognize that the Davidic kingship ended in 607 BCE when Jerusalem fell to Babylon, and would begin again during the fulfillment of the composite "sign" of Matthew 24 and Luke 21.

(Luke 21:24, NWT) Jerusalem [or 'Davidic kingship'] will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.
(Luke 21:24, YLT) Jerusalem [or 'Davidic kingship'] shall be trodden down by nations, till the times of nations be fulfilled.

How long would "the appointed times of the nations" last? Daniel chapter 4 contains a prophecy in which God's rulership, through the Davidic kings is represented by a "tree". That tree is kept down for "seven times", which seems to be seven periods of 360 "days" (See Rev 12:6,14). So Daniel 4:15 seems to be referring to 2520 "days" when God's governmental rulership would not be seen.

(Daniel 4:11-17, NWT) The tree grew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the heavens, and it was visible to the extremity of the whole earth. ...14 He ["a holy one"] was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: "CHOP the tree down... 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth... let seven times pass over it. 17 ...that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.
(Daniel 4:11-17, YLT) Become great hath the tree, yea, strong, and its height doth reach to the heavens, and its vision to the end of the whole land...14 He ["a holy one"] is calling mightily, and thus hath said, Cut down the tree...15 but the stump of its roots leave in the earth...and seven times pass over him; 17 ...that the living may know that the Most High is ruler in the kingdom of men, and to whom He willeth He giveth it, and the lowest of men He doth raise up over it.



But in history, 2520 days is not a significant amount of time. Jehovah's Witnesses look to Scriptures such as Num 14:34 and Ez 4:6 and re-examine the history using 2520 YEARS instead. From 607 BCE to 1914 CE is 2520 years; so many significant things happened that year, and World War I was only one part!.

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Answer 6

NOPE....