Brigham Young wrote, "Now here it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make organized the world. He is Michael, the archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken -- He is our Father and our God, and the only god with whom we have to do." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, pp. 50-51)
Many Mormons will say they do not teach this anymore. But if they believe their leaders are "prophets" of God then don't you think they erred in this area? Some Mormons will say Brigham Young is just misunderstood by many when he wrote this. But how come the Mormon leaders of his time are saying otherwise? Are Mormon prophets in reality false prohets?
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2007-11-01
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Seems 'he looked deep into his hat ,, put it on his head,,and since he was "open minded" his head filled full of pppppppp!
2007-11-01 15:53:29
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answered by hamoh10 5
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#1. You really can't ask a technical question when your own grammar is so bad. It sounds like a 1st grader asking about rocket science.
#2. Include the entire quote and it makes sense. Mormons do NOT believe that Adam is God the father. We do believe that he is Michael the arch angel however. Adam could be called the father of mankind, but that doesn't make him God.
2007-11-01 22:06:43
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answered by Ender 6
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The Mormon revelatory process has two steps. According to Doctrine and Covenants 9:8, if one wants to get a message from God, she needs to first study the question out in her mind, and second ask got if her tentative decision or conclusion is right. This revelatory process is the same for any member of the Church, from a Sunday-school teacher to a prophet.
In the early years of the Church, when its theological foundations were still being laid, much speculative doctrine was being “studied out” in Mormon circles. Subsequent revelation from God has shown that some of that early speculation was not theologically correct. The “Adam-God” doctrine is a fine example of such doctrinal speculation (“studying out”) that God subsequently said was not “right.” Other theological “studies” from this time period were confirmed true by God and are now accepted Mormon doctrines.
A similar process took place in the early post-apostolic Christian church. In the centuries following the death of the apostles, there was much theological debate regarding the nature of God and what constituted Christian doctrine. Ultimately, groups of men came together and established “creeds” to resolve these conflicting doctrinal questions. The path of Mormon Christianity has been somewhat different; doctrinal speculations were confirmed true or false via revelation from God, not by groups of mortal theologians.
Regarding the “Adam-God” theory specifically, it was never accepted by the Mormon Church as official doctrine. None of Brigham Young’s successors taught the concept (suggesting that the theory had not been confirmed valid by subsequent revelation from God), and many of his contemporaries did not accept the idea as doctrine. Even Brigham Young himself rarely spoke of his theory.
In 1902, the Church issued the following statement: “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has never formulated or adopted any theory concerning the subject treated upon by President Young as to Adam.”
2007-11-03 20:29:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Revelation is the only way spirit can reach out to the material. There is 2 basic revelations coming to us. 1- Epochal as with the life of Jesus. The Salem Priest Melchizedek, Adam and Eve. 2- Personal " P.24 - §1 The actuality of the existence of God is demonstrated in human experience by the indwelling of the divine presence, the spirit Monitor sent from Paradise to live in the mortal mind of man and there to assist in evolving the immortal soul of eternal survival. The presence of this divine Adjuster in the human mind is disclosed by three experiential phenomena: The intellectual capacity for knowing God--God-consciousness. The spiritual urge to find God--God-seeking.The personality craving to be like God--the wholehearted desire to do the Father's will. The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival." The rub comes when we try to make sense of this.
2007-11-01 16:06:42
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answered by Anonymous
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If you read the paragraph before you would understand the full context- that God the Father, Jesus Christ, and Adam are seperate individuals, that Christ and Adam helped in the creation, and that Adam is the Father of our race not the Father of our Spirits. Your argument and logic is so rediculous its unbelievable... for example:
1 Cor. 7: 1
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
Gen. 2: 24
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
By your logic and ability to take things out of context I just proved using these two passages that Paul was teaching things that were contradictory to God's commandments- therefore Paul is a false prophet and therefore that 2/5 of the new testament are writings of the anti-christ. (see how flawed your argument is now?)
2007-11-02 23:35:31
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answered by mweyamutsvene 2
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>at first, how do you justify the insurance of "persist with the Prophet, >he knows the way" no person is arguing that he replace precise right into a prophet. The historic Christian church alleges that he replace precise right into a pretend prophet. it is how this gets reconciled. Deuteronomy chapters 13 and 18 has some teachings approximately fake prophets it is pertinent here. >B) Secondly, how are you waiting to suspect Wilford Woodruff's >assertion that God won't enable a prophet lead you off course? a actual prophet won't attempt this by way of reality this one listens to God and passes alongside God's messages. >by way of reality the Adam-God doctrine replace into given at an sturdy >Church functionality, does not that be Brigham "suitable human beings >off course?" It confident could! >C) Thirdly, if an LDS prophet "converses with God" and has >won a "specific witness of Christ" for the duration of the 2d better suitable than in all danger he might have. Mormons say that their prophets are genuinely "incorrect" and bypass away on my own the thought-approximately fake prophet by way of fact can no longer prepare to them in God's actual church.
2016-10-03 03:46:01
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answered by tews 3
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Why is it that a prophet has to speak God's words 24/7/365? They can't have their own opinion on things? They can't be perfect, only JESUS was perfect, right? Were the Biblical prophets perfect?
Why do you not allow us to tell how we believe, instead of telling us how you think we should believe?
2007-11-08 13:03:54
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answered by mormon_4_jesus 7
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I don't know, you'll have to ask Brigham Young what he meant.
As far as the contemporary LDS church: No, we don't believe this, and this has never been canonized as doctrine.
2007-11-02 12:06:36
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answered by Feelin Randi? 5
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You have quoted out of context. Which doesn't surprise me.
2007-11-01 16:07:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Don't you wonder what will happen to this country if Mitt Romney gets elected? He believes this shi.......stuff.
2007-11-01 15:49:19
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answered by bete noire Carpe Noctum 5
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