Consider this? Jesus may have been just another nutter?

Question

Picture this, Jesus is this carpenters son who is mad as an hatter. This lad actually thinks he is the son of god,

Now the locals have, no telly to watch, radio not invented yet, most of them can't read. They live boring rubbish lives.

So the most interesting thing about is this nutter telling stories, and telling them that things are going to be great if they believe in him and his dad, not his crappy dad the bigger dad the Boss man.

I mean it happens don't it. People following false gods and stuff.

So what do you think, Is it a possibility?

Why do people always assume that a question is the opinion of the asker, sometimes a question is just posed to provoke debate.

The bible has been embelished adjusted and rewritten many times, by mere mortals with an axe to grind

Answer 1

O.K so God decides to send his Son to earth.. Hey Jesus, I want you to go down there and tell them that they're missing the piont when they worship me. They don't think about me anymore, just their traditions. They're stopping loads of people who want to worship me from signing up. That's just not on. You go down there, tell them your my son, and how to pray to me properly and everything, right, oh, and then I want you to offer yourself as a sacrifice for their sins so they don't have to do all that animal slaughtering anymore. Y'know, get yourself arrested, tortured and crucified.'

'You hate me, don't you?'

'No, no, I love you and I love them too. That's why you're going to do this for me - and them.'

'Are you sure you don't hate me?'

'Oh Jesus! Stop being such a baby! You'll only have to do it once, for all time.'

'You sure?'

'Yes.'

'But what if they don't believe I'm your son?' 'What if they say I'm a nutter and lock me up?' 'What will happen to your sacrifice plan then?'

'Umm yes, that could be a problem.' 'Tell you what, what if I give you special powers, y'know walking on water, magic tricks like water into wine, feeding thousands on enough for one meal, healing leprosy, restoring the blind to sight, making the lame walk, hey! Here's a show stopper, RAISING THE DEAD, how about that! 'They'd have to believe you then. ay? ayyy?

'I don't know.....'

'Oh go on, it'll be fun. Well the dying on a cross bit won't be, but you'll get to meet all sorts of interesting people and they'll remember you forever.'

'Oh.............alright then.'

Answer 2

It seems you started thinking about it,
the problem is at some point you stopped.


Keep thinking.

Ok. So you think he was a nutter.
1. People took him seriously.
Why? HOW can someone believe a nutter?
Can you come up with any serious ways of convincing people of these claims.
1. God exists
2. You are the way to God.

BEARING IN MIND THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ARE.
1. DEVOUT JEWS
2. ALREADY HAVE A RELIGION (JUDAISM)
3. HAD PRIESTS AROUND THEM WHENEVER HE IS PREACHING. (Priests will counter attack whatever you say)


2. People wanted to arrest him.
What can a NUTTER theoretically say or do back then that will cause the PRIESTS to want to get you killed, in fact why would they kill him in the end, ETC.

Please come up with a plausible continuous theory, not just fragments.

Start from the beginnin.


3. Gained Followers for 3 years
(who would quit on him when he died)
BUT
4. The followers would come back preaching to the point of death that HE RESSURECTED.
5. His followers were able to convince thousands of MORE DEVOUT JEWS. Of the simple claim that JESUS AROSE FROM THE DEAD.
6. Those following converts would,

A. PREACH HIS RESSURECTION EVEN IF IT MEANS GETTING KILLED.
B. GET MORE CONVERTS - what can convince them
C. Give up their riches and divvy it up in ecclesia.(gatherings)
D. Live many years preaching the same thing and also be willing after more than decades to also be martyred all at the same time still winning converts not only from JEWS but also from PAGANS.

Still gain converts TODAY even in modern day.
Gain people who claim that they got healed because of him, miracles etc.

Our group went to israel and found a post muslim girl who was going to join the suicide bombers and found she had leukemia, long story short a christian had her pray to God whoever he was to rerveal himself and in a dream she saw Yeshua/Jesus and revealed his name to her, and then added that she was healed... And she was, she made her stand in front of hundreds of jewish people (told her story, including how much she hated the jews and that she wanted to be a suicide bomber and now she loves them).

anyway..

Grace and Peace.

Answer 3

CANUTE:

First, the order in which the synoptic gospels were written can be worked out from their inter-relatedness, and in 110AD Ignatius, the bishop of Antioch, can be found quoting from the last one to be written. Therefore by 110AD all three synoptic gospels had been written - not "hundreds of years later."

Second, the Herod on the throne at the time of Jesus' birth was Herod the Great, not Herod Agrippa.

Answer 4

You are not the first person to put this opinion across and it has been widely held to be rubbish given that Jesus has never been portrayed by anyone in any literature, even non biblical literature, as having any signs of madness. Historians agree that he was not mad. Try reading, who moved the stone, by frank morrison.

Answer 5

To help you understand I could type thousands of words, but to make it simple; I died from a beesting many years ago and I saw Jesus and I know He is alive, true and everything He said in the gospels is true.
Obviously the Doctors and adrenalin brought me back here for a while, and life is good & death does and will have reason.

I hope you find faith.

Answer 6

Well, sure. Assuming such a person ever existed in the first place, I don't think you're all that far off.
Considering how many 'messiahs' were running around in the time of Roman occupation of Judea, I tend to think that this Jesus character is a hodge-podge of a number of different 'nutters' (UK slang is hilarious) who were rolled up into one with a dash of pagan mythology.
Of course, there's no proving it either way, so your guess is as good as mine.

Answer 7

There where many prophets backing then claiming stories similar to his.

The problem he got really popular with the Bible so we cannot say for sure.

Although I don't personally believe in all of it.

Answer 8

I doubt whether people listened to him because they were bored.

He was, however something of an eccentric.

It should be noted that many of the stories about him were invented hundreds of years later by his followers, who were carweful to try and tailor them to prophesies. That's why he was supposed to be born in Bethlehem, as the result of the 'massacre of the innocents' by Herod Agrippa, an event which never occurred.

Answer 9

any religion no matter what should not be mocked by other non beleivers as theese beliefs form the rules of morality for theese communities. on the other hand religion has caused more wars&suffering arround the globe than any other thing I can think of.

Answer 10

Picture this....Judgement Day....you're standing in front of Jesus Christ asking Him this question.