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Must one disprove or prove the other for existence?

2007-11-01 13:58:15 · 13 answers · asked by . 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Or can the spiritual accept the phyiscal but the phyiscal must have proof the the spiritual for its existence to be real? And if it must what constitutes acceptable proof outside of phyiscal?

2007-11-01 14:03:23 · update #1

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No, not co-exist in agreement. They only survive if they are kept separated.

Science destroys absolute truths.
Absolute truths destroy science.

They are governed by to entirely different thinking patterns.
Science is about accepting that we don't know and seeking an answer.
Religion is about deciding we know and denying all questions.

2007-11-01 14:01:20 · answer #1 · answered by Y!A-FOOL 5 · 2 0

Yes, they can, and do!

Most certainly, spirituality does not need to disprove the physical to exist. There is absolutely nothing within the physical that even suggests that the spiritual doesn't exist. Oh, it gives suggestion against Certain views (not naming any names), but not against all, or even most, I think. There are many, such as Wicca, that completely are in agreement with the physical.

The problem is, the spiritual is subtle, and is neither seen nor measured by the five standard senses. All of science is based on those 5 senses, and extensions of them. Science, in general, refuses to accept the possibility of anything that it cannot currently measure. There are some, but the general consensus of the scientific community, sadly, has considerable power.

They do exist in harmony, as long as one is willing to accept both sides. The religious zealots who insist celibacy is correct (hmm, like certain long letters to churches)... that kind fails the whole "go and multiply directive," that's a case of the two in disharmony, going to the extreme on the spiritual to a point of unhealthiness. The opposite side is the easier side, of the scientist who claims that All claims of the metaphysical are utter nonsense. That one denies his own spiritual growth for favor of the 5 senses's evidence.

As for what proof could be made to prove the spiritual? I and a bunch of the most skilled energy users I've ever known could Possibly pull it off, with months of practice and test runs. It's just, it's a difficult skill to perfect.

2007-11-01 21:16:16 · answer #2 · answered by Khana S 3 · 0 0

they both prove to each other that they exist just by being themselves.
Whatever happens in the physical has first happened in the spiritual. Always, every day.

That's how we have the authority to change the physical, because we(all humans) are also spiritual beings, made in the image of God.
We can speak into the spiritual to have something manifest in the physical.

2007-11-01 21:05:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The human being is a good example of the physical co-existing with the spiritual.

God has made us in His image (re: Genesis, the Holy Bible), so we are like our Triune God, the Holy Trinity. We are tri-partite beings, comprising of spirit, soul and body.

What we see on the outside is the physical, the human body - one day when the physical dies, and is buried, the body returns to the dust from which it is made.

The real person, i.e. the human soul + spirit, is immortal - when the body dies, the soul either goes to heaven or to hell. When a person is "born-again" of the Spirit (i.e. referrring to the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Holy Trinity), his soul will go to heaven because his sins have been forgiven by God when he received Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour.

The human spirit is part of the tripartite being that is in touch with God, our Maker. Remember when God created Adam, He breathed into Adam and Adam became a living soul? The human spirit is the part of us that gets regenerated when we are "born-again" so that we are alive in God our Maker.

Previously, our sins have caused our human spirit to be dead - the Bible refers to this as "dead in sins" - this is the very reason why the world is in such a mess! Human beings who do not know the True & Living God, are dead spiritually - people like paedophiles, serial killers, etc. do the abominable because their conscience is dead, i.e. to say, spiritually they are 'kaput'! There is no fear of God in them & they think there is nothing wrong with raping, abusing children, killing innocent people, stealing, terrorising people, etc. When such people die without repenting of their sins, they, sadly, end up in hell-fire!

God is a Holy God and if human beings want to go to heaven, they will have to submit to God's standards, His ways, His laws. God hates sins, but He loves His creation, which was why Jesus came to die for our sins so that our soul + spirit can be saved.

2007-11-01 21:29:58 · answer #4 · answered by cataliz <SFCU> 5 · 0 0

The flesh and the spirit actually co-exist in us today. That is the battle within. According to Christianity, God in the future will do away with our flesh and give us an incorruptible body, thus the flesh will no longer exist.

2007-11-01 21:03:04 · answer #5 · answered by ignoramus_the_great 7 · 1 0

That's what a human being is - the co-existence in harmony of the natural and the spiritual.

2007-11-01 21:02:17 · answer #6 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 1 0

The physical and the spiritual are two sets of ideas about the world but in actual reality neither hold value. Reality goes beyond the ideas we set up about it. I hope that helps.

2007-11-01 21:02:09 · answer #7 · answered by hrld_sleeper 5 · 1 0

While in our present state, the human being is both physical and Spiritual... however there will not be total agreement of both until after the return of Jesus.

(((((ethel)))))

2007-11-01 21:38:56 · answer #8 · answered by Ramjet 5 · 0 0

no, they couldn't because the spirit is willing but the flesh (natural man) is weak.

Don't you know when you want to do right, but you don't? That is because of the two warring with each other.

2007-11-01 21:01:20 · answer #9 · answered by Indya M 5 · 0 0

Yes, they coexist quite nicely. It's messed up people that think they don't.

2007-11-01 21:00:47 · answer #10 · answered by Nels 7 · 1 0

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