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That 97% polled stated their state should also adopt the same antillegal alien laws. my question is lou Dobbs "evil" as the mayor of New York said and is Oklahoma a "racist" state for protecting its border?

2007-11-01 12:05:19 · 12 answers · asked by R J 7 in Politics & Government Immigration

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I'll answer your question in a round about way.. I am a liberal, but, I also didn't dump my brains in the sink. Enough is enough. There's something about this whole illegal immigration debate that is absolutely insane! Why is it okay for someone who is not supposed to be in America to be in America? The pro illegal alien argument is : "Because they are already here". This "logic" seems to be too weak to have avalanched into an amnesty movement. But, it has.

If I decided to visit Japan because it held some economic perks for me and I faded into that population after my tourist visa expired, I would be a criminal. And if the Japanese government caught me, slammed my butt on a plane and sent me back to America, why should I be mad? They, after all, are a sovereign people, able to make and to enforce laws for their country that should be respected globally. Now, if I were crazy enough to reside in Japan illegally, I would also attempt to get pregnant in Japan so that my off-spring would then become Japanese nationals and I could get a better foot in the door with the Japanese government (maybe). In-between pregnancies I would support myself by working as a line cook at an area McDonald's where the manager doesn't care who he hires. Later, I could come out of hiding and take my children to Japanese health clinics, have them attend Japanese schools, and I would try to get some Japanese welfare in order to support them, myself, and some more children (if I feel like having more children...'cuz I am from a large family in the states). Later, as my loitering in Japan continued, my sons and my daughters could help me over-turn the Japanese government and set up a situation whereby scofflaws like myself (who breed like rabbits) would get amnesty. We would plead, cry, tug at their heart strings, and appeal to their basic sense of decency in order to get what we need. Moving right along, we could then mandate the singing of the Star Spangled Banner at Sumo wrestling matches, the flying of the American flag over various Japanese municipalities, more beef and less seafood served in the country, and the destruction of the national identity of the Japanese people including rewriting the Japanese Constitution. Also, folks like me certainly aren't going to start speaking Japanese and we think we can get by without having to do so... We want the Japanese to start translating everything into English because it would be racist and noninclusive of them not to accomodate us. Our consumer dollars count, even though we don't pay taxes. We would then get some well-meaning, but misguided, Japanese citizens to feel sorry for us and to help us push our cause for amnesty in the Japanese Parliament . And there you have it...veni, vidi, vici.

This is exactly what these Hispanics are doing in America. I do not feel sorry for these people...not in the least. If they want citizenship, they can apply for it legally and come into this country the right way like everyone else. This is not about what suits THEM... Why do they think they are sooo special and that they can just stroll (or run) into this country, finance a townhouse and start working at Taco Bell or digging ditches without a pause? How dare they! Meanwhile, prospective immigrants from other parts of the world have taken theTOEFL repeatedly and have participated in Green Card raffles repeatedly over the span of many YEARS for a chance to immigrate to this country. Many of these people are turned down...many of them possess PhDs. So, in effect, we are currently up 12 million (30 million by some accounts) criminal illiterates who have no intention of ever assimiliating into American culture whilst they are steadily pushing their own political, nationalistic, and cultural agendas [ I am told that their Catholic beliefs prevent them from taking the notion of contraception or birth control seriously].

And what about the American corporations that bring illegals into this country for menial labor (like poor, bamboozled "children") by the truck loads?? I, for one, think that infantilizing the Hispanic people(viewing them as cute, guileless, simple-minded,"Oompa Lompas") and not holding them accountable for their own invasion of this country is demeaning and racist indeed. If they are smart enough to get here by stealth, then they are smart enough to know that they are doing something WRONG. Some Hispanics may not be completely responsible for getting here (because of some capitalist, Willy Wonkan, American pig who wants to exploit them), but, they are, never-the-less, responsible for their own departure.

"Walmart got caught...I got no more job, mama. I go back to Mexico? Or I stay here?"
" You stay here, mamita...you got the rights. You have the babies...si?"
"Okay! How long I stay?"
"Til they catch you! El Presidente Bush es bueno amigo!"
" Okay! "

I actually read an article about one illegal Hispanic construction worker who had positioned himself into a nice slice of the "American Pie". Enjoying a nice income, a nice truck, a nice house, and a nice business, he was furious that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service had finally gotten around to catching him. He issued this haughty line : "This country is so ungrateful." What the hell... The sheer nerve of this type of person is truly incredible. If I plant a nice garden in someone else's backyard, is that MY garden?? Of course not. Illegals have no claims or rights to America, period. What kind of rights would I have in Mexico as an illegal alien? They would boot me out of there without so much as an, "Adios!"

Some say that these illegals pay taxes and contribute greatly to the American GDP. I find these claims dubious, at best. If I am "on the run" ; trying to fly under the INS radar ( not having been issued a proper social security card by the US government), I don't think I would be waiving around a red flag to the IRS stating,"It is I, Maria! The illegal that crept into your country two years ago who now wants to pay my taxes!" Most likely, these illegals are accepting their income from under the table. And, instead of paying money into the American welfare system with their taxes, they are, in fact, the major strains upon it by unfairly accessing health services, schools, and other tax payer supported resources. Meanwhile, this misfit population is booming (with mostly out-of-wedlock births) and I guess their strategy is to multiply and to conquer. And don't get me started about the visual pollution of illegals hanging out at shopping malls for "day labor", the gangs, the drugs, and the other nasties associated with illegal immigration. If I hear one more illegal immigrant whining about how racist Americans are because someone complained about these illegals having fifteen people shacked up in a two bedroom house, I'll puke up some refried beans.

Whether they find themselves in North Dakota, Maine, or Southern California, illegal aliens need to get the hell out of this country and come back in the right way if they wish to earn the proper regard of law abiding citizens. This is not about racism or Hispanic bashing... This is about the existing laws of the US government which were created by the consensus of law-abiding American citizens. This country must stand by it's Constitution or it will fall for absolutely anything!

2007-11-01 12:33:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6 1

No. Lou Dobbs tells the truth, and Oklahoma should be applauded for doing what the US Government is either incapable or unwilling to do. If this has to be a states rights action issue...so be it. Let's get it on and let the drones in DC kiss our collective behinds.

2007-11-01 12:39:20 · answer #2 · answered by chuck_junior 7 · 4 0

i am from OK and the people WANT our laws enforced. the local news has been giving press to those who object and it is strange that they call us racist to combat us. they use the argument that it will break up families. only those who are illegal.

the illegals have fled the state and that was the objective so i deem it a success if only from that view point. it will only serve to lessen our rising crime rate that we have experienced of late.

the only ones don't support this locally our in Tulsa and OKC, our two larges cities. everyone else supports it and is proud of our state taking the lead in enforcement of the laws we have now. that is all we are asking...clarification and enforcement of the laws that should be enforced from the beginning.

some of the catholic churches have been allies to the illegals and should NOT receive tax exempt status if they are going to mix in politics. they are not above the law either.

law suits of course have been filed as they feel their civil rights are violated but to me, you don't have civil rights unless you are a legal citizen of the USA.

they still don't get it in congress. we are not against IMMIGRATION, only ILLEGAL immigration. they keep calling us racist and trying to ram it down our throats with more weak and unenforceable laws and we keep telling them NO! i am proud of my two senators who work to defeat any bill that would include amnesty in any form.

2007-11-02 18:02:44 · answer #3 · answered by ? 7 · 1 0

Lou Dobbs is speaking up for the people, unlike politicians
who are pandering to the illegals and the corporate biggies who enslave them. Its about time somebody spoke up.

2007-11-01 12:12:17 · answer #4 · answered by ash4euphoria 2 · 5 0

Lou Dobbs is one of the "ONLY" voices for the American Citizens.... THe 3 % against it are politicians for the lobbyists.

2007-11-01 12:17:08 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Doesn't the Mayor of New York believe in laws?

We can't be divided into a nation of people who can break laws and people who have to obey them.

The country will fall apart on that basis.

2007-11-01 12:57:33 · answer #6 · answered by sister_godzilla 6 · 3 0

There's nothing 'evil' and 'racist' for wanting to get rid of illegals who do nothing but place a heavy burden on the shoulders of citizens.

2007-11-01 12:12:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 7 0

Security has nothing to do with race. Borders are borders (state, national, provincial, whatever)... every country in the world has policies about their borders, and most enforce them, too.

2007-11-01 12:08:55 · answer #8 · answered by steddy voter 6 · 7 0

He is telling it like it is and how the majority of Americans feel. Keep it up.

2007-11-01 13:26:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

HELL NO!!!! i HAVE BEEN THERE, ITS A BEUATIFUL STATE, GOOD FOR THEM FOR PROTECTING THEIR BORDERS

2007-11-01 12:43:01 · answer #10 · answered by poopsie 5 · 3 0

No he's telling it like it is.

2007-11-01 12:07:50 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 8 0

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