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Are the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation 11 having any connection to their faith? Do they believe in the Trinity? Do they consider Christ as God manifested in flesh and had died to redeem man and was given all authority in Heaven and on Earth?

2007-11-01 10:46:20 · 10 answers · asked by lonelyspirit 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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http://towerwatch.org use to be a witness, now I am a saved Christian.

2007-11-01 16:27:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

Are the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation 11 having any connection to their faith?

The two witnesses are commissioned to prophesy, as was John, indicating that the John class is the same as the two witnesses. The designation of “two witnesses” signifies that they will have visibly witnessed the very presence of Christ, just as Peter, James and John visibly witnessed the transfiguration and John also witnessed Christ in the vision of Revelation.

According to the writings of Paul the revelation of Christ is accompanied by another phenomenon – the revelation of the sons of God. Paul worded it this way at Romans 8:18-19: “Consequently I reckon that the sufferings of the present season do not amount to anything in comparison with the glory that is going to be revealed in us. For the eager expectation of the creation is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God.”

For a certainty, Jesus and his fellow sons of God, the 144,000 make up the new creation.

Do they believe in the Trinity?

It is well known that after the apostles died off, Christianity became increasingly corrupt. As a result of an apostasy from Jehovah and under the influence of the demons, Jesus was gradually elevated from being the Son of God to God the son.

Finally, in 325, the Roman Emperor Constantine hosted a conference of bishops in Nicaea, France, where it was decided that Jesus was God. Amazingly, over the course of a few hundred years the Roman emperors went from feeding Christians to the lions to playing a major role in determining Christian doctrine! Although it would take several more centuries for the truth to be entirely snuffed out, eventually the trinity was institutionalized as the central teaching of Christendom.

Do they consider Christ as God manifested in flesh and had died to redeem man and was given all authority in Heaven and on Earth?

Christ came in the flesh when he was born as a human Son of God. He also came in the flesh when he came to John the Baptist to be baptized and was born again as a spirit begotten Son of God. That's what Christians confess, that the man Jesus Christ was Jehovah's promised Messiah when he came down to the earth.

2007-11-01 21:27:04 · answer #2 · answered by keiichi 6 · 1 1

Those who worship God and tell others about him are witnesses to him; that is, those who bear testimony to his Godship.

The nation of Israel were at one time God's Witnesses -(Isaiah 43:10, 12)

The prophets of old were God's witnesses -(Hebrews 11:32; 12:1)

Even God's Son Jesus Christ is called "the faithful and true witness". -(Revelation 3:14)

Jehovah's Witnesses are known for their preaching work. They are active everywhere on earth, witnessing about God, his Son Jesus, and the Kingdom which will end man's problems (Acts 1:8; Matthew 24:14; Revelation 21:4). No other religion does this. No other religion actively seeks out people to warn them of the great day of God the Almighty to the extent that Jehovah's Witnesses do. (Acts 5:42)

-They believe that Jesus died for their sins and that 'there is no other name under heaven by which they must be saved'. (Acts 4:12)

The reject the Trinity doctrine since it is not found anywhere in the Bible. Rather, they believe that "Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah" and that he "ALONE is the Most High over all the earth" (Psalm 83:18; Deuteronomy 6:4). They believe that Jesus is the faithful only-begotten Son of God and that he has been appointed King by God (Psalm 2:4-6; Daniel 7:13, 14; 1 Corinthians 15:25-28).

2007-11-01 18:10:55 · answer #3 · answered by johnusmaximus1 6 · 2 1

We believe in Jehovah God as the Supreme entity that created the universe and mankind, and animals, etc.
We believe that Jesus is the only creation created, by Jehovah God.
We believe that we must do as Jehovah requires, in the way we worship, and live.
We believe that the laws stand placed, by Jehovah's will and therefore we obey them.
We believe that the only hope for mankind and the situations man has placed himself in is the Kingdom of God, whose regent ruler is: Jesus Christ, [Christus] [Messiah] = Anointed One.
We believe Revelation was written in signs and symbols, and like other parts of the Bible cannot be understood by a few select teachers, learning the Bible is a group activity.
We believe that the 144,000 are the only ones who will be going to heaven, while there they will assist Jesus in ruling the earth.
We believe that like Noah's day the earth will be destroyed, but yet the earth will go on and it will then be made into a Paradise condition...those of us who have the earthly hope will be the workers in making the earth beautiful again, and also as teachers of those who Jehovah deems worthy of being resurrected.
We try to teach all that we meet, the forgoing things I have related

2007-11-01 18:03:51 · answer #4 · answered by Nancy 6 · 6 2

JWs believe in God the Father, his Son, Jesus and God’s holy spirit. We also believe that Jesus is the Son of God, The Christ, the Word, and our Lord.

We believe that salvation comes from God the Father and his Son, Jesus.

Rev 7:10 – . 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”


But what we don’t believe is that Jesus,his Father and the holy spirit are part of the Trinity, meaning they are all Almighty God.

Here are some reasons why.

Who is Jesus?

Jesus said at John 20:17 “‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” Notice Jesus has a God, whom he called “My God” and who is also his Father.

Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God. Rev 3:14 & Prov 8.

What the Bible says is that, it is the Son of God, who died, and manifested in the flesh to redeem mankind. John 3:16, etc.
Jesus was given by his Father all authority in heaven and on earth but later on Jesus will become a subject of his God , that God may be all things to everyone.(1 Cor 15:27-28)

Who is the Father?
Isa 63:16 - 16 For you are our Father; although Abraham himself may not have known us and Israel himself may not recognize us, you, O Jehovah, are our Father.

Is God composed of THREE PERSONS?

Gen 17:1 states “, then Jehovah appeared to A´bram and said to him: “I am God Almighty”

Now, please use your understanding,

Do you use the phrase “I am” for THREE persons or you only use it for ONE Person?
If God is composed of THREE persons, God should have said “WE ARE God” but you cannot find that it the Bible.

You never use the phrase “I am” for THREE Persons. I am is only used for one person.

JESUS said to the Father also in John 17:3, that the Father is the “ONLY True God”, this means there is one and only one person who is God, the Father. and this is confirmed in 1 Cor 8:5 where is states “6 there is actually to us one God the FATHER”.Notice the Father only. Notice also in John 17:3 Jesus excluded himself as the only true God. Instead of saying “We are the only true God” JESUS said “YOU (referring to the Father), and not US” as the only true God. Now are you against Jesus?

Now, if the Son is Jehovah, the Father is Jehovah and the holy spirit is Jehovah according to the Trinity doctrine, then these THREE PERSONS, are THREE Jehovah.

But the Bible says in Deut 6:4 Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.

Notice in Deut 6:4 it used “IS” and only ONE person is involved. If there are three Jehovah then it should have used ARE for THREE persons.

There is ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, who is God Almighty.

2007-11-01 19:34:53 · answer #5 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 4 2

There is a lot of the bible they misinterpret. They do not believe in the devil, or hell, they believe in salvation by works but they will try to tell you otherwise. They teach that Jesus was resurected but as a spirit creature, more specifically, they teach that at the resurrection, His body stayed dead but the tomb became empty because God hid Christ's body somewhere else.

One good way to see if what they teach is to see and test what they preach and say. Pastor Russell, founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, suggested a test to determine which prophets we should not follow:
"Jehovah, the God of the true prophets, will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets. False prophets will try to hide their reason for feeling shame by denying who they really are."

So why is it that get there Prophecies
because they follow false teachers and false prophets

1872 Beginning of the millennium. Wrong! Watchtower publications later changed the date to 1975, another date in which it did not happen.

•1874 Christ's second coming. Nothing happened. The Bible says His second coming will be seen by all.

•1914 All world governments to be overthrown. God will glorify His people and govern the world.

•1915 When man's governments were not replaced by God's in 1914, the date was changed to 1915. The Watchtower Society later admitted these prophecies "had not been fulfilled."

•1918 End of Gentile times, the churches to be destroyed.

•1920 The mountains, republics, and kingdoms were to disappear.

•1925 The kingdom was to be established in Palestine. Faithful men of the Old Testament were to return. It was later admitted that this and the 1918 prediction were wrong.

•1929 A house was built for the return of the Old Testament faithful. It was sold in 1948 because they did not return.

•1932 The Watchtower stated that the date for the overthrow of Christendom had been moved up from 1925 (previously 1918) to 1932 and that the overthrow did not happen in 1932 either.

•1975 Since the Millennium had not begun in 1872, the date was changed to 1975. Again nothing happened.

2007-11-01 18:10:25 · answer #6 · answered by Wally 6 · 1 7

No analysis of the "two witnesses" would be complete without mentioning Moses and Elijah. The visions of these two prophets were themselves symbolic when they appeared at Jesus' transfiguration"! That event pointed forward to the time when Christ would sit in glory on the throne of God's Kingdom, which Jehovah's Witnesses believe occurred late in 1914 (see references below).

(Matthew 17:2,3) [Jesus] was transfigured before them, and his face shone as the sun, and his outer garments became brilliant as the light. And, look! there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, conversing with him.

(Matthew 25:31) When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne


Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the symbolic "two witnesses" of Revelation 11:3,4 represents Jehovah's Witnesses themselves between 1914 and 1919. Anointed Christians among Jehovah's Witnesses preached despite terrible persecution for three and half years, their work seemed "dead" for a brief period, and then their preaching work re-activated larger than before!


The Scriptural passage which introduces the "two witnesses" mentions the "prophesying" or preaching and teaching work they perform for 42 months, and connects the "two witnesses" with lampstands and olive trees.

(Revelation 11:2-4) [The nations] will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.” 4 These are symbolized by the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth.


Jehovah's Witnesses note strikingly similar language from the bible book of Zechariah (compare with Rev 11:2-4):

(Zechariah 4:1-3,11-14) And the angel who was speaking with me ...said to me: "What are you seeing?” So I said: "I have seen, and, look! there is a lampstand... And there are two olive trees alongside it... And I proceeded to answer and say to him: "What do these two olive trees on the right side of the lampstand and on its left side mean?" ...Accordingly he said: "These are the two anointed ones who are standing alongside the Lord of the whole earth."

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that all (or most) Witnesses in the first few decades of their modern history were "anointed"; that is, these expected a heavenly resurrection at their deaths.


Jehovah's Witnesses also believe that the 42 months is a literal length of time, because the time period is repeated in another unit of measure as "1260 days" (42 months of 30 days). Jehovah's Witnesses believe that this same 42 month period of time is discussed as 'three and half years' in Daniel 7:25. (Note that 3.5 years = 42 months = 1260 days.)

(Daniel 7:25) [The "small horn"] will speak even words against the Most High, and he will harass continually the holy ones themselves of the Supreme One. And he will intend to change times and law, and [the holy ones] will be given into [the "small horn's"] hand for a time, and times and half a time [or literally, "one year and two years and half a year"]


The book of Daniel seems to use that "small horn" to represent the Anglo-American world power which has dominated the world scene since World War I (See "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" (page 141), published by Jehovah's Witnesses).
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How did these secular governments "harass continually the holy ones" (Dan 7:25)?

As WWI heated up, persecution against Jehovah's Witnesses accelerated because the preaching work tormented the secular governments. The 42 months (Rev 11:2) seems to have begun in December 1914 when the Witnesses were moved to chose as their 1915 year-text "Are ye able to drink of my cup - Matt 20:22, KJV". Over the next three and half years and amidst the war hysteria, anointed Christians among Jehovah's Witnesses were imprisoned and even tortured in Canada, Britain, and the United States. Witness publications were banned, and even in the United States certain Witness publications were deemed "illegal". The 42 months of preaching in the face of persecution seems to have culminated in June 1918 when the U.S. sentenced the president and directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society to long prison terms. With the Witness "leaders" imprisoned, political entities around the world thought Jehovah's Witnesses were dead.

(Revelation 11:7-10) And when [the two witnesses] have finished their witnessing, the wild beast [representing secular governments] kill them. And their corpses will be on the broad way... nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not let their corpses be laid in a tomb. 10 ...these two prophets tormented those


These "two witnesses" must have been "dead" long enough to stink, and to seem really dead to the observations of their enemies and other onlookers (compare John 11:39). So too all of Christendom assumed Jehovah's Witnesses were gone permanently when their "leaders" were imprisoned. Yet what does history tell us?

(Revelation 11:11) And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet

On March 25, 1919 the president, officers, and directors of the Watch Tower Society were released from federal prison. By September 1919, Jehovah's Witnesses were again publicizing the hypocrisy of Christendom and the superiority of God's Kingdom over human governments. Jehovah's Witnesses, the "two witnesses" of Revelation 11, were again alive in preaching the Kingdom message despite the feelings of "the wild beast" and false religion (see Kingdom News #37).
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2007-11-01 19:08:27 · answer #7 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 3 1

good grief phone keeps ringing
not much they dont keep any holidays at all....see the cults book
no they deny the Trinity

2007-11-01 17:56:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 9

They believe in bothering me while I'm sleeping by pounding on my door.

2007-11-01 17:49:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 8

They believe they are special. Which all mentally sick people do.

2007-11-01 17:50:20 · answer #10 · answered by gdc 3 · 2 10

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