For those that believe once saved always saved I have a question?

Question

Jhn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

why did Jesus tell Mary to sin no more if she was forgiven and saved why did it matter if you sinned again if once saved always saved?

Isn't possible to backslide? Why does God warn us to not be a stumblingblock to others if they are once saved always saved?

1Cr 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

Answer 1

Larina, not only that, but Jesus gave us a parable that demonstrates that a person can be saved and actually lose his salvation.

The story of the sower shows seed falling on 4 kinds of ground.

The 1st ground didn't receive the seed at all. It was too hard.

The 2nd and 3rd received the seed, the seed took root and started growing an actual plant, and then for one reason or another, the tree was choked out and died.

Only the 4th ground, good ground, received the seed and brought forth fruit.

And in continued support of your statement, Paul talked about the wild branch being grafted in contrary to nature, and if the natural branch could be cut off because of unbelief, how much more so can the wild branch likewise be cut off because of unbelief?

Answer 2

"Has God indeed said...Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away."? (Luke 8:13)

the scripture clearly teaches BOTH the sovereignty of God AND the free will of men. To deny this is irrational, and must be caused by something other than reason based on scriptural precepts.

The scriptural position is that a person who is saved can forfeit that salvation. The bible teaches those at highest risk of forfeiting their salvation are those who are newly saved, and those who continue on in known disobedience, after being born again.

The elect are those whom God chose, whom God foresaw would both trust in His Son AND who would endure or persevere in the faith given them until the end of their physical life, or the return of Jesus.

Those whose hearts are seeking the Lord with all that is in them, should have no concern about "losing" their salvation. Nor should they have any concern about forfeiting their salvation.

Salvation cannot be lost, but it can be forfeited - this is the nature of covenants in the bible. The bible no where guarantee's someone that salvation once received cannot be turned away from or forfeited by the individual that possesses it.

Receiving salvation involves man's will, and not works. Forfeiting salvation involves man's will, and not works. In the same way the Lord did not force His salvation on anyone, He neither forces anyone to remain in the covenant.

Answer 3

Very good question.

I believe once saved always saved, and that you do not hop in and out of God's family. Other wise it would not be eternal life, because eternal life is forever.

So in other words you cannot lose your salvation, once Jesus has saved you, you are eternally saved.

But if you backslide as they say. You will still have your salvation, but you can lose your reward, that is waiting for you in heaven.

Although Christians; have freedom and grace in abundance, they are still meant to follow Jesus, so that those who are lost might come to believe in Him and be saved.

But remember that the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Jesus is the only one without sin.

You will find that if someone has come to accept Jesus into their life; then the love of God will naturally flow, and that they will want to please Him.

But Christians are not perfect, only Jesus in them is perfect.

You may have heard that after The Fall, as a punishment for Eve who listening to the snake in the Garden of Eden, she was made subject to her husband. That was her punishment, but when Jesus came he restored woman to her former position as equal with man.

You may have heard this quoted many time. That Mary said, "My soul doth magnify the Lord."

This showed that woman too can glorify God.

This was one of many reasons why the pharisies and high priests wanted to have Him killed.

Answer 4

Of course a person will sin after salvation. Jesus Christ screamed out on the " IT IS FINISHED" John 19:30. He became sin for every man and finished the job His Father sent
Him to do. Thus, all sin is paid for. But why do people go to
eternal damnation? Because they fail to believe that Jesus
is the Christ the God/Man. John 6:40. Sin keeps one from
fellowship and the filling of the Holy Spirit. How we walk in
the Spirit is by 1 John 1:9. Confessing our sins daily or even
more often than that.


Eternal life is forever our God did not lie to us, what kind of
Christianity is that. He does it all, He saves us and He keeps us.

Answer 5

Ok, first I want to remind you of a few things God tells us about heaven.

Do you remember the part where it is said that it is better to be a gatekeeper in heaven than to be the highest position in Hell?

This tells us that there are not only levels of punishment in Hell, but also levels of rewards in heaven.

We are also told in scripture that when we come before our Lord in Heaven, we will have a crown on our head that we take off and lay before our King. Crowns can have jewels in them, supposedly from no jewels to many jewels.

Now, back to your question. Abraham and Lot of the old testament were both given the opportunity to live where and how they wanted. Lot chose to live in Sodom and even though God called Lot a righteous man, he did not produce much if any fruit. His wife didnt want to leave her old life and his daughters did not trust in the same God that saved them from death. They took matters into their own hands and impregnated themselves by their own drunk passed out father.

Now, Biblically Lot made it to heaven, as God called him righteous, just as we are made righteous by our belief of the father , the son and the holy spirit.
I am not sure how many "jewels" Lots crown has .

Romans puts it quite plainly also. Paul writes that he is sure, certain, that NOTHING can separate him from the Love of God.

The bible states quite clearly that we will continue to sin (disobey God) after we are saved. The difference is that we are now aware of what is offensive to God and we strive not to do it. Rather than have the attitude that we can now do anything.

I kinda see it this way, I have a friend in another country who has invited me to come there and live. I have very little understanding of the laws and customs of this country and am really worried that I will do something wrong and end up in prison for the rest of my life.

My friend says, do not worry, I will give you diplomatic immunity, so that even if you break the laws of my country, you will not be prosecuted for it.

Now, what I do from here depends on just how much I respect my friend. I can go , yippeee, all is legal for me to do!!!!!, or I can respectfully go to this country without fear of prosecution, and all the while learn as much as I can while I am there, so that eventually, I wont need that immunity at all, because I have learned all the rules and regulations and am living by them.

That is what salvation and its GRACE is all about. The more we learn and understand, the more we want to do what is expected of us.

Answer 6

Once saved - always saved…only works if you have a relationship with the Lord. You can’t go back to sinful ways…you have to commit yourself to the Lord. When you backslide, you re-commit, confess to Jesus and move forward.

Answer 7

My guess is we're saved (accepting Jesus )but not perfect.Thats where Jesus comes in.To continuously pray(cause the dark one is always there).Always trying to get us to go the other way.I get confused on that alot too.So many people with 'the answer' but do they really?To keep the Holy Spirit in the heart and try to do our best daily.God knows we're not perfect,thats why Jesus died on the cross.As the scripture says.No one is perfect,not one.So no one has the right to brag that they're 'rightious' cause they still sin.(come across plenty of them).
I hope that helped.I get confused too. : ).

Answer 8

It is not possible to lose your salvation! Ephesians 4:30 states that when we believe we are "sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption" Why? Because we have experienced the new birth and have therefore been born into the family of God. We can't become "unborn again"

Answer 9

Nowhere in the Bible does it say "once saved, always saved". This doctrine was made up in the 16th century. It was not taught anywhere in the ancient church, no early Christians taught it and Jesus Christ never taught it.

In fact Jesus is very, very clear in the sermon of the Sower and Seeds that some people receive the gospel with great joy and begin to grow, but because they have no root they wither and die. Does that sound like "once saved, always saved"?

Answer 10

He who stands to the end, the same shall be saved. We are under grace but are commanded not to abuse grace and thus grieve the Holy Spirit that resides in us. Sin is a killer and should not be taken lightly. Christians are at war with sin for it is this very thing that put Christ on the cross in the first place.