How did they "make him write down on a paper everything that he had just told them?" Once they gave him the Miranda warning, he was deemed within "custodial interrogation" (else they would not have done it). Once that happens it's time to shut up and call an attorney. Anything AFTER that point is inadmissible if he asks for an attorney and they don't give him one. They can't 'make' him write anything down.
2007-11-01 05:38:32
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answered by jurydoc 7
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If watching was all he did, he is still responsible.
Good grief, what is wrong with parents that they need to look for answers in here. Don't you have a conscience? Don't you feel that you have any culpability in the way your child grows up and what he finds acceptable social behavior?
I understand that parents want to protect their kids, but come on...ultimately, parents and their parenting skills or lack of them, should also be brought to bear.
That said, hire an attorney.
BTW....
WTF are kids doing making bombs anyway? DAMN...I'm sure you'd feel completely different had your child been injured or killed, you'd be out for the blood of everyone involved.
Oh and as for HIS rights? We the public have the right to a safe living and work enviroment. He violated that right, and he should pay...
Wanna know what pisses me off? LOL probably not but I'm gonna say it anyway, cuz I have that RIGHT, bleeding heart parents who say "My kid would never do that!" And I say this cuz I have been on both sides of that fence.
I'm sure you all can guess how I stand on celebs who get a slap on the wrist too.
Sorry, I know I am ranting, but sometimes it seems that society is just going to hell in a handbasket...no matter what you try to do to stop it, this country is on a slippery downslope, and it's only a matter of time before we hit the bottom.
2007-11-01 06:07:17
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answered by Tira A 4
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Well he should have known better than to have anything to do with it, but I would not have agreed to take him to the station without a lawyer present. They do that making you think they will let you go if you cooperate. then you talk and the next thing you know you're in jail. Actually, I think you're going to have a hard time with the Miranda thing, because they were only asking questions at the time. He was not a suspect until he made the statement, which he should have never made. The statement put him in jeopardy by implicating himself and at that time they mirandized him and arrested him for confessing to a crime basically.
Good Luck
2007-11-01 05:16:17
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answered by Alchemist 4
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OK, NOW AS STATED HERE:
1) FIVE BOYS MADE THE WORK BOMB.
ALL GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION OF THE CRIME. ALL HAD KNOWLWDGE.
2) 2 DECIDED TO PUT IT IN A MAIL BOX AND DID.
GUILTY PARTIES TO PUTTING DEVICE INTO A MAILBOX, BOMB, FEDERAL OFFENSE. (THANK GOD IT DID NOT GO OFF / OR DID IT?)
3) MY BOY AND TWO OTHERS WATCHED FROM 100 YARDS.
GUILTY AS THEY HAD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE. (IF SOMEONE WAS MANED OR INJURED AS A RESULT, ALL WOULD BE CHARGED WITH EDERAL OFFENSES.)
4) ARRESTED TWO ON MAIL BOX AND TALK TO MY SON.
WHAT DI YOU EXPECT.(IF IT HAD BEEN A SHOOTING AND THEY KNEW AND STOOD 100 YARDS AWAY, THEY WOULD STILL BE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.)
5) THEN MARANDA WARNING GIVEN.
AFTER STATEMENT GIVEN TO COLLABERATE THE STORY ABOUT THE TWO OTHERS AND THEIR ACTUAL INVOVEMENT.
6) AIDING AND ABETTING.
GOT OFF EASY FOR GIVING STATEMENT. MIGHT GET OFF ALL TOGETHER FOR COOPERATING WITH POLICE IN INVESTIGATION.
7) WRITE DOWN STATEMENT.
TIES HIM TO CRIME AND OTHERS.
OK. HE DID NOT PUT THE DEVICE INTO THE MAILBOX. BUT HE WATCHED IT BEING DONE. WHY DID HE NOT COME HOME AND SAY THIS IS WRONG, I KNOW BETTER. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE GET CAUGHT?
HIND SIGHT IS? WHAT IF THEY NEVER THINK ABOUT THE AFTER EFFECTS OF WHAT IF THE DEVICE WENT OFF? OR DID IT?
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE DEVICE WENT OFF WHILE MAKING IT?
I THINK YOU NEED TO WATCH WHOM YOUR SON IS RUNNING WITH AS A GROUP.
YOU NEED TO THANK GOD NOTHING HAPPENED TO THEM AS FAR AS THE EXPLOSION DEVICE.
WENT TO A SCENE WHERE A WHOLE HOUSE WAS MISSING.( THE SIDE WALL) BECAUSE THIS DEVICE AS MADE. (1974) NOT A PRETTY SITE. BODY PARTS (TWO BODIES) BLOWN ALL OVER THE BASEMENT. HAD TO PIECE WHO BELONGED TO WHAT FOR FUNERAL.
2007-11-01 05:42:53
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answered by ahsoasho2u2 7
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Sounds like he was being a teenage boy that made a bad decision. But the positive side is that if he is convicted, he's still a juvenile and the record should go away when he turns 18. Just hope he learned from this.
2007-11-01 05:03:52
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answered by ItsJustMe 2
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Never, Never, Ever let your child (or yourself for that matter) make a statement to the Police without benefit of counsel. Especially when they say "Just write it down for us in your own words". Now you know why. The Police's job is not to defend your rights; it's to "uphold the law". And to their way of thinking, by your son not telling, he is guilty of accessory after the fact, during the fact, or whatever. I suggest you get a lawyer and quick. Due to his age and the fact that he was not actively involved, he may just get a slap on the wrist. But whatever, get you a lawyer NOW!!!
2007-11-01 05:03:03
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answered by HipHopGrandma 7
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Do you read this board much?
Did the police "ask" you or did they "demand" you to come with your son?
Did you call your attorney immediately after this request/demand?
Did you bring your attorney with you to the police station?
Once in the station, did you KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT?
Now have you learned that promethean behavior trumps epimenthean behavior everytime.
Confession by trick? Isn't that allowed?
2007-11-01 05:33:19
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answered by KarenL 6
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I think it's a lesson learned for your boy. Boys do stupid things (I have two myself), but they need to know what the limits are, so they don't get hurt, or hurt other people (or property). I really don't think there will be any lasting damage to your son, and he's a minor, so he won't have a criminal record. I'll bet he'll think twice next time his friends have a stupid idea like that!
2007-11-01 05:06:18
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answered by Tiss 6
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Placing an explosive device in a mail box is a federal offense. This could be only the beginning of your troubles.
2007-11-01 05:08:56
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answered by Anonymous
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You did not have to go to the station. You did not have to let your son tell the story. You could have told them that if you want to talk to my son, you'll have to talk to my lawyer.
But you didn't.
After he told the story they informed him and you of his rights, including the right to remain silent. He chose to disregard that right when he wrote the statement. He was not forced to write it.
2007-11-01 05:09:09
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answered by Kevy 7
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