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the "eternal damnation of torment and suffering" hell that christians keep whining about.

This is it. Here and now. we all died, and were born stright into Hell.

No way out, cause when you die, you just get born back here again!

ideas of salvation are just there to torment us with false hope.

am i the only person that sees this?

2007-10-31 20:31:11 · 24 answers · asked by feveredbrow 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Actually the only thing you can see is your own existence. If you experience hell then I guess that's where you are.

2007-10-31 21:25:01 · answer #1 · answered by LillyB 7 · 0 0

Maybe you can try pondering over the kind of life that the queen of Britain has and the life of an African child has,then you might come to understand why Jesus said some sowers yielded thirty fold,some sixty and some hundred. Even in this HELL like you said, some people are living a very happy life,it is only a matter of whether we did enough in our past and are we doing enough now to deserve all the good things in this present life.

2007-11-01 05:03:18 · answer #2 · answered by ladybird 3 · 0 0

Probably not, but you all have it wrong. Hell does not exist in some nebulous place. When we die it is just as it was before we were born. You are here, whether you like or not, and the conditions you live in are dictated by circumstances, most of which are under your control. Life is what you make it, you are probably young enough and intelligent enough to alter those circumstances in a way to make your life more heavenly, get busy, time is running out.

2007-11-01 12:16:55 · answer #3 · answered by johnandeileen2000 7 · 0 0

It can feel like that, and for you it may be so, right now.
The way through, because there is a way through this,
is to change.
Change your attitude, in a breath, the mind is the only "thing" keeping one separate from all that is love.
Where love dwells, hell is not, nor can ever be.
Know this is real, I kid you not.
Your birthright is to know what love is.
Your birthright is to know that you are love.
Live this truth, know who you are.
Hell will dissolve as you walk in the light that is love.
Live in the heart, the heart knows all.
Love will set you free of this musing of the mind.
Change where you dwell,
love is the only answer and
it is never mind.

Bless you
Peace in the heart

2007-11-01 04:11:22 · answer #4 · answered by Astro 5 · 0 0

I think that any person that "whines" about how life is hell, is someone who wants to express their hatred for themselves and their fellow man and have stopped looking for good things in live. I hope my "false" statement that life is not hopeless and is not some cosmic accident and that all things in the universe was created by love, by a God that loves and and wants to forgive does not torment you. (This will probably be painful for you)Just so you know, this same God can and will forgive even YOU!!!
NOTE: I innately know this statement to be true.

2007-11-01 03:51:12 · answer #5 · answered by TYRONE S 3 · 0 0

It could be depression that gives you such a dark outlook on life. Maybe you should look into the possibility. You can actually enjoy life too...

And salvation is real. My experience is that it sets you free, really free. Not only in the next life, but even now.

2007-11-01 09:12:38 · answer #6 · answered by Amelie 6 · 0 0

All "suffering" is self-created and self-inflicted. Suffering in this sense is equated to the human understanding of Hell. Hell/suffering = the dark places in ourselves or the dark places that we project outwards, for what we see is always a mirror of what we hold within. Using your understanding of Hell, I partially agree with you, but do not see "torment and suffering" as INEVITABLY "eternal." Rather, we have the ability to "wake up" (and smell both the coffee and the roses) through becoming aware/mindful of how, as individual egos, we have "separated" ourselves from the whole. The moment we see an "other" as separate from ourselves we begin to live in suffering and torment. You and I and other all come from the same source, we are the same (energy?). When we perceive ourselves as separate ego beings, we become "self-involved" and lose the ability to live compassionately, being only interested in what will bring pleasure and well being to us, without regard to the "other." In this search for our own happiness, we enter the arena of never-ending unsatisfactoriness--we can never achieve happiness because we will never be satisfied: we get what we want (love, success, peace, excitement, etc.) but it either does not last or it fails to fulfill us; or we struggle with avoiding pain (the opposite of pleasure) and disappointment. Either way we'll never find satisfaction--because nothing remains permanent in this world, the world of duality and polarity, where we swing from one opposite to another constantly (pain to pleasure, pleasure to pain). This is the Hell to which you refer. The only way out of this darkness is to "realize" its futility and to reunite with the Light (enlightenment) where all are one, there is no "other," and we merge with our Source (whatever you choose to call that). First, awareness of never-ending change in this world (impermanence). Second, observing the ego-self and its ongoing dissatisfactions. Third, slowly peeling the false self''s masks away and becoming aware of connection to all beings, all creation. Fourth, sitting in meditation to still one's monkey mind chatter that perpetuates the idea of separation. Fifth, entering the silence, which is union with Source. Voila! No Hell, no Heaven--just the Absolute Field of Reality, beyond the relative field in which we live in the world, where not only Hell and Heaven are illusions, but the world itself is an illusion (a relative, polarized, constantly changing experience). I invite you out of Hell, my friend. It's all in your mind. Observe your mind's erratic, impulsive behavior and its hold on you and choose to leave the Hell you are experiencing. I am Sirius

2007-11-01 07:04:14 · answer #7 · answered by i am Sirius 6 · 0 0

No, you're not the only person by a long shot. What you're referring to is a concept called "the eternal return". Ever heard of Friedrich Nietzsche by chance?

2007-11-01 03:35:49 · answer #8 · answered by cliche_guevara9 2 · 1 0

If you are having your hell on earth, and you are living a good life of loving your neighbor and obeying the ten commandments, you will be in heaven in the after life.

2007-11-01 04:40:40 · answer #9 · answered by Bibs 7 · 0 0

That's not a good way to look at life. Be glad you were born at all. There is no afterlife, when you die you will just cease to exist, so appreciate life while you have it.

2007-11-01 03:39:11 · answer #10 · answered by Jessica 3 · 0 0

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